masterzone2

Its simply lets wait and see what pans out.

Sorry guys got a broken right hand ATM trying to do all this with my left one. Basically Someone from my past has a FAC and SGC They were abused some time back. I am told the person who abused them is due for release.

One Personally Them attempted to kill themselves are being abused just got their FAC after having an SGC for a year. Firearms where brought within hours of the ticket hitting the door mat They do have many many acres Over 50 in family ownership all joined the other god knows how much they have FULL written permission for. Interesting I have been told the abuser is due for release. The other knows who they are don't you?

Right think we need to step back a bit here guys now we have vented our anger Now lets just step back. Black ops do this a lot a have a 99.9% successes rate.

Its my understanding the police force have already put themselves to another police investigation authority don't think its the IPCC I would like to say to any Anti reading this that stopping me from owning the sporting equipment I do With in my own home WILL only raise your taxes. And you will be NO safer from it-There are many Instruments to commit murder in your home. Also again Illegal firearms are readly available on the underground for not much money. Firearms ownership needs to be public to be policed otherwise it goes underground.

JLS Enough said However would like to add I'd give Karen Gillan a bloody good seeing to!

Just to Add I wish to Add my deepest Respects to the Victims and the family suffering from this.

I cannot accept and condone Being in control (as being in charge is seen as a different matter) Of anything along the lines of Vehicles Or firearms whilst choosing to become intoxicated be it with-in the legal limit Or not As far as I am concerned you want to drink the firearms and cars are left well alone. Thankfully my days of drinking are well and truly behind me, I have seen what drinking has done to people Decided I didn't want that road.

If History has taught us anything is tighter laws do NOTHING If that was the case then Hungerford,Dumblane,Cumbria, Rhys Jones, Raoul Moat The list goes on The 1st half are 3 would never have happened if tighter laws worked- the last are the Evidence Look around your homes (excluding any and all firearms) and there will be many instruments of murder. And note the press won't be talking about shootings regarding Illegal arms. Another note A copper has just been nicked and bailed for murder in Norfolk. And how was that (now hang on) was he Indian or is it Asian now? back to the point Shot dead My guess by an Illegal firearm. To Me IMO this is another case of police failing to do the job correctly If the antis want something done time to get up the **** of the police. Again I refuse to be punished for someone else's crime!

Clearly you guys have been watching news I have not. All I have seen on both BBC and sky is that there were 4 deaths from gun shots And that someone in that house had legal firearms Not once has anyone said that it was the licence holder just that someone in that house had a licence to hold firearms. Well I hope the Antis don't mind the Tax rise for me to sit on the dole if they out law my firearms.

Clearly you know **** I don't give out to much information How do you know what I have? and where else I shoot my firearms? and so what If I do ask about ghost loading would it make some one a nut to ask how/ if they can get extra long tubes for their FAC shotguns? If I ask a question regarding Law, Safety etc its know as common sense something a Racist like you wouldn't understand And I quote if you look through his previous replys you will see him quote language which the afro/Caribbean community are stereotyped as using which you will notice was on a pistol related thread which again the Afro/Caribbean community are stereotyped to use. So you call me a Nut-Nut Fair enough but I am law abiding and have common sense You "IN MY OPINION" (NOTICE OPINION) HAVE PROVEN NOTHING TO ME OTHER THAT TO HAVE SHOWN YOURSELF TO BE A RACIST END OF GOOD BYE!

Do you what mate you really are just another Thomas! If I wish to ask questions about law to broaden my knowledge then I dam well will! You don't like it tough ****. Bet you'd be the 1st to go asking how you can go about getting a speeding fine over turned if you ever got caught-especially if you had 9 out of 12 on your ticket. Stop giving people like me a hard time for seeking the truth OK?

Erm I moved house rang the Firearms unit they sent me a new FAC and SGC out with a letter requesting my old ones returned Via the old recorded delivery. My local lot seam to be very trusting of me of some reason.

Nice to some more information on such acts. Its because I asked questions like above I found you could still own the Self-loading .22LR, from watching the news I was lead to believe they were restricted to section 5 after Hungerford just shows how much incorrect information is out there. So just to confirm under the 1969 firearms act air pistols above 6ft lbs are still legal and can be held on an FAC subject to suitable reason?

Don't think sixhills finds that funny.

Always got told that if an air pistol is over 6ft lbs then it section 5 Then look in to it more NEVER saw it in any of the firearms acts and the 1997 ones only talk about cartridge based ones. So that is a new one to add to the list of knowledge then. Nice one.

By wording it looks like the right is subject to person. For example a certain group of people have the right to have shotguns IF you do something wrong you no longer fall under said group so you don't have the right. That's how it was explained to me by other shooters anyway. The other thing is that Air rifles and pistols are also classed as firearms despite the missile not being projected by what basically is an explosion.

Can someone post a link to the exact word of the above firearms act As a few of us have never seen the part which restricts hi-powered air pistols Even my FLO has never seen any wording which makes them section 5.

There is only one way to mount this sight the mounts are built in so to speak.

For the life of me I cannot get my red dot to zero I have even borrowed a mates laser bore sight (as he can't shoot due to injured arm) used one of them rifle work stations to secure the rifle in to a fix place set it so the laser was at target centre they tried adjusting the red dot to the laser dot. However the red dot scope won't get close to the laser one. Yet I got 2 more laser sights taped them roughly to the silencer and was hitting the target centre with ease. Not fare of saying the scope is useless but was wondering if I am missing something?

Just the .22 P22 Walther And maybe the 92F just for range work.

Add another Hilux to the recommendation list but try for a Mark 3 or 4 Many said they upgraded from them to the mark 5 on wards and regretted it big time had one who wanted my mark 4 back. Good truck but then I have been running a shogun and getting on with that.

There is also the most tried and tested black market Granted you have no real idea what you are getting But Lets assume you get a genuine handgun of any calibre off the underground you could do more harm than those other 3 ever did. You, me, Tom, **** and harry could get ANY firearm we wanted illegally However I personally believe that Dumblane was a set-up why else would they put a 100 year lock down on the whole thing, the others haven't. And please correct me if I am wrong here but last time I checked it is Illegal for the "system" to punish someone for someone else's crime hence why people get sued, sacked etc if someone is wrongly arrested/jailed etc. Surely every law abiding licensed firearms holder is subject to the same injustice Some times I really wish I had a few million would consider suing.

OR look at it like this the public are quick to forget they have already moved on to hating the next thing MPs, perverts. Or are too busy with the latest craze-the media are only interested in the latest thing I often wonder how long it would take people to cotton on to such a repeal should it ever take place. In fairness 700,000 total firearm holders (thats FAC/SGC combined) only 100,001 of those would have to back this to get it heard. And considering how many black powder pistols there are, and think that I know people with 3-5 of them all 6 shot I make that 30 shots. Fact every pistol holder and those of us who hoped to do pistol shooting were shafted but what was IMO a well planned out event to take pistols off us it was planned many years before Dumblane.

Well It could happen if every FAC holder stood up to the idiots.