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Got my new ammo today - RWS HP subs. First impressions not as accurate as the Winchester but will do a side by side comparison in case I'm a bit off today (and it was windy). It's quite greasy - makes firing quite smoky. No misfires/misfeeds since I cleaned the rifle anyway and even if I'm not clover leafing (yet) I'm in bunny head territory. Just need to practice from standing now, or leaning on a fence (which I can do safely on my home range!)
Testing ammo and practicing shooting are really two different things. To test ammo you want to try and eliminate as many variables as possible. Still air and as firm and stable position as possible and a decent range, 50-70 yards or so. Shoot two or three 5 shot groups with each type of ammunition you have from this perfect set-up, then have a good look at them, see if the holes are round or slightly oval, measure the group. Write on the target card what ammunition, range, rifle etc. These groups may be inches away from your aiming mark, every type will shoot to a different place, all you're interested in is the group size. (and if it will cycle your rifle) Try every available brand you can get your hands on.
Once you have some data, gathered from a level playing field, you can eliminate the non starters, those rounds that won't cycle the action (save them for when you buy your bolt action .22) and those that produce flyers or loose groups.
Once you are left with two or three possible candidates you can think about other factors besides accuracy, cost, availability, knock down power, velocity, wind effect, clean shooting etc.
Once you have the ammunition that best suits your rifle, then is the time to zero the scope at your chosen range, maybe 55 yards, that will give a usable range from about 20 -60 yards with no significant hold over/under.
Now you know what your rifle/ammunition is capable of in ideal conditions you need to practice, if there are any flyers they're are down to you. You also really need to stick to the same ammunition once you have found the right one. Only after hundred of rounds at various ranges will you get the feel for the right amount of hold over or how much to aim off for the wind.
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Once you've checked the barrel and mounts HERE'S an easy way to zero your sights.
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Perhaps I'll have to get you over for the next round of the Sussex Rimfire Challenge?
That sound fun - any excuse for a plink. Let me know when.
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I have no problem with people doin there own ammo in fact find it realy interesting and would like to learn more myself just was the response about me saying wot I have seen then his response "then I woke up" to me shows a person who thinks only people with high end kit can shoot this sort of grouping not the man behind the gun. Just my opinion and don't want this to turn into another argument thread
Sorry if you took my post the wrong way Jonah, no offence intended, it's just that I thought you were being serious for a moment when you said that you have seen "guys at the range get that sort of grouping at 3-500 yards with a £300 .308"
Now, I'm not saying it couldn't happen, given enough groups over a long enough period it could happen, it would just be a pure fluke. If you could find a £300 .308 rifle to shoot sub 1moa at 500 yards that would be a rare find - 1 moa will give a group size of just over 5 inches at 500 yds, really excellent accuracy but most unlikely to be seen using 7.62 military ammunition. (This is why the bull on the 500 yard NRA target is 10.5 inches)
If you were fairly serious about accuracy, you might think about F/TR rifles. A super tuned .308 rifle, superb scope, handcrafted ammunition, and a bi-pod that looks like the legs of a moon lander might give you .25 moa or a group of something like 1.5 inches at 500 yds. Remember, this is pure accuracy, what the rifle/ammunition is capable of, this is before the skill of the shooter and wind problems are added to the mix.
If you wanted to stretch the pursuit of accuracy further then you might try F-Class open. Here the rifle is supported with a front rest and rear sandbags, any calibre you want but the "V" bull is only 5 inches at 1000yds.
Stretching things to even tighter groups you might be looking at "Benchrest" shooting at anything from 100 -1000 yds with very specialised equipment - Here, to win matches you might be looking at a series of 5 shot groups with averages under .25 moa.
Then you get to "rail guns" , as Remmy say, the F1 of precision shooting, looking for every possible technical improvement to give the edge, different rifling forms, twist rates, bedding methods etc etc.
At every level of shooting there are others who say "Ahh but that cheating, where the skill in that" The chap who shoots standing freehand with open sights will say it about the guy who shoots laying down. The guy who shoots laying down just using a sling says the same about the guy who uses a bi-pod and a scope etc.
There is skill at every level, it's just a different sort of skill - I'll happily shoot a 7.62mm No 4 with aperture sights and a sling at 600 yds, a lever action gallery rifle or a black powder pistol but shotgun shooting, where's the skill in that, you can't miss can you, anywhere within a foot each side of your target will do.
We are all shooters and need to support each other - "Rail gun" shooting is a highly specialised shooting sport and requires it's own skills, but then, so too is/was free pistol shooting or even miniature cannon shooting - each to his own but we are all kindred spirits.
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Seen guys on the range at 300 and 500 yards prone with a £300 .308 get that sort of grouping lying in cow poo lol
Then you woke up
If it wasn't for these guys at the cutting edge, striving for the very best accuracy, at their own expense then we would still be shooting smooth bore muskets or at best a military based round. Almost all the major improvements in accuracy have been made by private enthusiasts pushing the boundaries. Without this sort development there would have been none of those great cartridges like the 6ppc, 6Br. .257 Roberts, the Ackley's, 22-250, 300 Savage etc.
The ammunition manufacturers don't strive to develop new rounds they are pushed into it, to try and keep up with private shooters. It took many years before you could actually buy 6mm PPC brass - If you wanted the accuracy to be competitive you had to fireform the brass yourself.
Only a few years ago a rifle that could shoot a 5 shot group into 1 inch at 100 yds (1 moa) was considered the bees knees - (Something like an up-market Weatherby rifle would be advertised as capable of 1 moa accuracy) Now a reasonable run of the mill Remmy/Ruger/Winny with good ammunition will do that and we expect more of the Tikka/Sako/Blaser quality rifles.
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I know it well, lovely part of the world.
I also know the Star/Waldron very well. Went to school there in the 1950's. In those days there were two shops, a separate post office, a working forge and a petrol pump.
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I clean my .22 barrels regularly, every year, whether they need it or not. The semi-auto gets a good de-gunk at the first sign of unreliability but this is an action strip and clean, not the barrel. I played the .22 prone match game for many years and again about once a year was the norm.
On the other hand, anything but the .22's get the full works every time they are used.
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I got best results with Winchester SuperX, not bad with Eley but the CCI are still dismal. Going to trade in what's left for Winchester, although it's been recommended I try RWS.
After using Eley HP subs for many years I have just recently switched to RWS HP subs - I have found the quality of the Eleys, especially the velocity, has been quite variable over the last year or so. The RWS subs now have the edge on accuracy at the longer ranges and perform well in both my semi-auto Voere and my Sako Finnfire. (My semi-auto has been tuned to run on subs.)
RWS HP Subs available from Chris Potter, T. Wells £45 per 500
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If you do your initial zero like THIS it doesn't matter what the markings on the scope are, which way they go or whether they are marked in mm/.25"/.125" clicks. A quick bore sight with the bolt removed and single shot at 30 yards will get 98% of the work done.
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Excellent news - Enjoy your shooting.
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A Guinea! Us poor boys were still using mustard coloured, Ministry of Agriculture subsidised cartridges - I only ever saw No 6's, I think that's all there were. 25 shillings a 100.I paid 21 shillings for the last box in Fenwicks, Wolverhampton; and they were very old stock This would be 1963.
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Ahh yes! They take you back a bit. About 18 shillings a box (90p for you youngsters
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my mate has one from roukes drift.........its on his shotgun certificate....
Hmmm! - Is it a smooth bore? Be worth a fortune if it has provenance.
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Our aircraft are insured for malicious damage. They say that the individual has been released on police bail - unfortunately not from the altitude he deserves.
Nick
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Is there any one on here who knows there stuff about old firearms on here been given some and looking for some information about them.
Many thanks
A few pic would be a good start Ben.
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Indeed, but if both are insured - I wonder who would pay. If it were two vehicles, or two aircraft, it would be more straightforward. But here we're dealing with a car and an aircraft which have two distinct sets of laws which regulate them and how they are insured. I suppose the insurance companies would fight it out - would love to be a fly on the wall in those discussions
I don't think it would be a problem if the car was insured for the driver - In this case I guess the 4x4 was nicked and the driver possibly unlicensed and probably uninsured.
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I would think the planes would be insured £200k is a lot to leave in a feild
The planes are certainly insured - It would just be a lot better if you could claim off the insurance of the guy who did it. In this case I think the case is pretty slim.
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It would all depend upon whether the owners of the damaged planes are paying to park them on the airfield. If they are they should be able to claim against the owner.
Englefield is just a strip of mown grass alongside a field - no radio and not much else. You'd need to check for sheep before you land
It may well be insured though.Have a look here. You can see a plane standing in the corner right under the point of the label.
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I expect he'll get a really firm caution. He won't be insured so the plane owners can't claim there, and I doubt if they can claim against the airfield owners. The Cessna 182 is a really nice plane, I think that one is the "T" version and only a few years old. Maybe about £180,000 - £200,000
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that's about it,be no good putting you through your test on a 10 lessons for a £99 scenario would it? I had 6 lessons (long time ago) then passed 1st time, my youngest daughter (19) is now taking lessons she has had about 30 is is nowhere near yet, due to the method of tuition, seems they spend more time parked up talking theory rather than driving,still at what is petrol now £6 odd a gallon? its not surprising is it.
KW
There are around 50,000 qualified instructors in the UK and I must admit, many are not that good. If you're concerned about your daughters lessons, ask to go out on a lesson and see how it goes. Ask the instructor for a demonstration of how it should be done. Get your daughter to do the theory in her own time, she can download an App for her phone with all 900 questions and answers, she can buy a CD with all the questions and hazard perception tests. - Time spent with the instructor should be driving not sat talking (other than necessary explanation/fault analysis.)
Did you know that a lot of the cheap instructors are not fully qualified, they are allowed to teach pupils for six months as practice for their final exams - They use your kids to practice on but they won't tell you they're not qualified, only 30% of them eventually qualify. A fully qualified instructor will have a Green hexagonal badge next to the tax disc, a trainee instructor will have a pink triangle.
Did you know all qualified instructors are graded from 1-6. Grades 1,2 and 3 are sub-standard and need to get further training. Grade 4 is the lowest acceptable grade, this is the average instructor, there are more G4 instructors than all the rest put together.
Grade 5-6 are considered high grade instructors (around 6% of instructors are G6) Government research show that higher grade instructors have a higher pass rate and pupils take fewer lessons to get to test standard.
Many cheaper instructor lease their cars, often with a 30,000 mile limit, that's why you see them sitting on the side of the road talking all the time.
So - You would be better off with an experienced, independent, high grade instructor who comes with a personal recommendation from someone who has actually passed with them. - You can ask to see their Grade certificate, if they can't/won't show it find someone else.
Cheap lessons are really false economy, to take a test now will cost well over £100, there should be no need to take 3-5 test and then scrape through on a lucky day.
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So I could wander into a wood with my chainsaw, cut a branch off of a tree and take it home for firewood then? Not sure that would go down too well!
I'm not saying you could or should - I'm all for "every mans home is his castle" and keeping scroats and undesirables off your own private property. What I'm saying is there are some ancient laws, often especially there to protect the lowly serfs but kept alive to protect the heritage and ancient traditions of this country, that might be worth looking into in this particular case - I have no idea, I've done no research but I did know that A. A lot of land in private ownership is now open for recreational purposes. B. The taking of fungus and berries is not classed as theft if it is for private consumption.
Many land owners find it inconvenient that public footpaths and bridleways run through their land. I can imagine a rich Middle Eastern gentleman, having just purchased half of Devon would be absolutely stunned to think some lowly pleb can wander across his land and pick up any firewood (By hook or by crook), fungus and berries that he can reach from a public footpath, but this is the law. There have been many cases where rich powerful people have tried to block public footpaths (two local cases here was Paul McCartney and Nicolas van Hoogstraten ) and come unstuck in the court, also many cases of "common" land being fenced in and because no-one stood up and complained the land was absorbed into the local estate.
What I'm saying is, just do some homework, check the land registry, does this guy really own the land or just thinks he does, is there public right of way there, who knows?
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1066 , Just how long was the driving test increased to?
The HGV/PCV test has to 50 minutes duration to make it a legal test.
I have sat in the Test Center , and seen cars arrive back in as
little as 35 minutes??? Badly bay park , and pass.
With no Controlled stop. (Emergency Stop) as it used to be called.
No 3 point turn , now its (turn the vehicle using gears brakes and steering) can be a six point
turn. (And every car these days has power steering)
Please advise how the driving test has got harder
??The driving test most of you guys will remember, up to the mid 1990's was 35 minutes long - The examiners did 8 tests a day. In that 35 minutes you would be asked to do an emergency stop, a three point turn and a reverse round a corner and on return to the test centre the examiner would ask six questions from the highway code and fill out your pass certificate all with 35 minutes. The examiner would only mark serious faults on your test sheet, no minor faults were recorded. So, you had about 18 minutes of driving time plus a few tricks, the national pass rate was about 56% and I would get about half my pupils through for a first time pass in about 20 hours.
Today the test is 50 minutes long, the examiners doing 7 tests a day. The pupils now must pass the theory test before applying for the practice test. There are 900 questions in the question bank, the pupils need to score 43 out 50 random questions then a "hazard perception" test with movie clips.
The test starts with "technical questions" brake fluid, tyre tread depth, cooling fluid, etc. Only one manoeuvre is carried out on test but it can be either a three point turn, a reverse round a corner, a parallel park or a reverse into a parking bay. The emergency stop is still carried out but only on 30% of tests - So you still need to know all the manoeuvres because you don't know what you are going to get.
On the test the examiners will now mark minor errors and Eco driving errors. An accumulation of these will result in a fail even if you have done nothing serious. For example, driving in third gear when you could have been in fourth would give a fault.
Recently a new section has been added called the "Free drive" where the examiner will ask you to follow road signs to XXX until I tell you otherwise.
The national pass rate for all tests taken is now around 43% and the first time pass rate is around 23%. A theory test costs £30 and the practical test cost £62 and the average pupil is taking 40-60 hours to reach test standard.
When I assess experienced drivers I very rarely find one that would pass a learner driving test today.
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Writing to ask permission would be a good move but I would do some homework first so you know where you stand. - I think you may well be able to forage for 'shrooms and berries on his land and still be within the law.
A good many of these ancient laws were recognised in the "Right to roam" and Countryside act.
(3) A person who picks mushrooms growing wild on any land, or who picks flowers,
fruit or foliage from a plant growing wild on any land, does not (although not in possession
of the land) steal what he picks, unless he does it for reward or for sale or other commercial
purpose.
For purposes of this subsection ‘mushroom’ includes any fungus, and ‘plant’ includes any
shrub or tree.
The WCA is a complex piece of legislation, which touches upon common law rights in certain areas. I will take two examples – plant gathering and animal hunting/ gathering. In general a landowner owns all trees and plants growing upon his or her plot. An owner has the right to sever such objects from the land (and to sell the same), but WCA intervenes in the case of certain protected wild plants. In short if a plant species is protected under WCA, no one can pick, destroy or sell it (including the landowner) without committing an offence. If a species does not enjoy WCA protection what about the stranger who wants to take plants? An act of this nature would ordinarily be theft, but an exception in the Theft Act states that in the case of mushrooms or plants growing wild on land, a person may take away foliage, fruit or parts of the plant without committing an offence – unless it is done with the intention of selling them, or for other reward.
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Hot wire cutter is easy to make and makes an excellent job. Using a template of thin ply or even stiff cardboard and a battery charger - for a thin stainless (high resistance) wire a guitar string works well. You will need a bit of spring in the bow as the wire will stretch as it gets hot.