fortune82
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Ive watched them kill songbirds and game bird chicks. They stop when 32 grams of 5 hit them!
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Careful lads, careful. Keep it quiet and dont let the "pigeons need 56 grams of BB through an extra full choke" brigade hear about this or else the mods will shut the thread down just like the last one!!!
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I doubt there will ever be a firm link either! It is highly toxic, radioactive and has a half life of 4.6 billion years!
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Lead is quite inert when it goes into the ground. There are scores of fields around the country where they hold clay shoots but still graze cattle and it doesn't contaminate the milk. Also they graze cattle and grow crops on the old WW1 battlefields like the Somme and Ypres with no apparant problems.
Lead is not inert! Whilst at University I undertook a lengthy study into the impacts of lead shot on the environment. I used a small clay shooting club in Scotland that had been running for over 30 years. A quick calculation estimated that in the order of 2 million cartridges had been fired at the club in its history. If I remember correctly levels of lead in some soil samples was 23 times what is normal for that area. Lead contamination was also found in the vegetation growing on the site.
It certainly does contaminate the land hence why the US Army is investigating using non lead ammunition on training ranges.
I can only imagine what levels are at larger clubs. One near me had the lead taken out of one of the DTL backstops and apparently they got 96 tonnes out!
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Just type it into google. its all there!
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Thanks for the help! Beverley is only approved for .22 rimfire. I have heard that the British Deer Society run regular range sessions in this area using Strensall Ranges but cannot find any info.
Ill have a look at cottondale as well!
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Having been shooting for ten years now I am thinking about putting in for a deer rifle.
I have been stalking on an estate in SW Scotland numerous times and am planning on doing DSC Level 1.
Most of my stalking would be bought days along with the occasional Roe on our game syndicate.
However I would obviously need somewhere for practice / zeroing.
Are there any rifle ranges in the East Yorkshire area which are suitable for this?
I know about the various rifle clubs and military ranges in the area but dont think you can just turn up as and when you want for 10 - 20 practice shots etc.
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I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself...there is no link yet as far as I am aware :(
Very few rifle shells get anywhere near uranium, they certainly do have some other nasty things in the propellent and the projectile, not to mention the ballistic effect.
For all we know it is a local chemical leak :o
I know rifle bullets have no DU in them but a large number of tank rounds, and aircraft cannon rounds contain the stuff. A lot of armour nowadays also contains the stuff. I spent some time training with the army when I was younger and saw how effective a DU shell from a Chally 2 is! Its like a 2 foot long dart going at 3000 fps!
The links between DU use and birth defects etc is very strong.
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Thats total rubbish mate!
Not so matey!
Check the Proof House website and you will find out. There is a load of **** talked about steel. Less than half choke and standard steel and you can fire it through any modern 2 3/4 inch gun in good condition.
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Does anyone have any experience of the new Kia Sorento 2.2 diesel? What is it like off road? By that I mean is it good at general muddy fields and dirt tracks? What about MPG and on road handling?
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fleabay! Usually about £3 for a full workshop manual on cd
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Good call on the DU! I already have all the data. According to the US Army they have fired 1.8 billion rounds of small arms ammo in Iraq! Thats a hell of an amount of lead! Apparently its 230,000 per iraqi killed! I did a study into lead pollution at uni so know a bit about it!
MC - Cheers for the offer but I have a few 150 grain FMJ'S here so might just melt out the core and see what the jacket weighs!
Thanks guys!
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Cheers guys! Was just checking to see if anyone knew specific weights for the core and jacket.
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I have used steel shot through a Winchester 101 for the last 3 years with no problems. Barrels are still like a mirror.
You only need the fleur di lis if shooting high performance steel loads. Normal 32 gram loads are fine in a 2 3/4 inch gun.
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I have found the best way to open up chokes is to put a cone shaped piece of metal into the muzzle and hammer like ****! Barrel end up looking like a blunderbuss but hell you have no choke!!
Don't worry you don't need to thank me for my professional gun smithing advice.
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I have to teach a new topic to Y13 students in a month about the environmental impacts of war.
Out of interest does anyone know how many grains of lead there are in a .308 150 grain FMJ and a 55 grain .223 FMJ?
Thanks for any help
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When a student I worked in a gun shop. The markup they made on most items was pretty good. I remember BSA Meteors I think were bought in for around £50 and sold for about £150. This was 10 years ago however.
The markup on clothing was massive - 100 - 200 %. Cartridges were the only area where there wasn't much to be made.
I think they could afford £1.85 postage!
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I was told something similar with my Cocker at 8 months old. I actually think the trainer was trying to get me and the dog to run before we could both walk. I stopped going and took things at my own pace and let the dog grow up a bit. So far it seems to be going well.
Have patience!!!
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A nice set of chrome barrels is just what you need to put every pigeon in the area off your decoys!!
You could get your teeth done at the same time for the full gangster effect and then paint the stock and fore end high gloss black!!
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Have you just won the lottery or something!!!
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Cheers! Will do.
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Does anyone have any reccomendations regarding gun dog trainers in East Yorkshire?
I have a 1 year old Cocker who is coming on well with basics. I want him really good for the next season and need some extra help.
I have been to Allan Atkinson at Howden. Can anyone reccomend anyone else?
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I accidentally sent them 10 copies of the times and a few old lead fishing weights or 30 in the freepost mistake!! Ooops!!!
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If a mate has a spotting scope take it as well and set up some real long range targets, 400 - 500 yards for the .17 and .243 for fun when it goes quiet. Its amazing how far a .17 will go in still conditions. mate can watch and tell you where to aim!
Choked Rifle Barrel
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I have been reading the thread on shortening a rifle barrel and the complications involved if the barrel is choked. Why would a rifle barrel be choked?
I used to have a .22 air rifle which apparently had a choked barrel but could never work out where it was choked or why it was choked.
Can anyone help explain why and how this is done? Obviously it helps on a shotgun by why on a rifle?
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