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As for Cars, the two Reps I've had dealings with both had Hilux's. They really should all have EV's.......I feel Thinking about it a bit this whole Transition thing is like the deadline for all Electric cars...Idealistic but no real thought gone into it. Toyota, Ford and many other car manufactures pulling out of the full electric market purely on it's not cost effective, and no real benefit in the long run.

What i am saying is we have been doing the same thing for the last, well me 25 or so years and my uncle way before then and the only limiting fact to Grey Partridge is predation ie. Red Kites and to a lesser extent Buzzards.

So what is it ? We have huge amounts of Red Kites and Buzzards, last shooting season at least 30 Greys and last January 200 plus Lapwings and we shoot 4/5 days with a bag of 10 to 30 of various, we farm I suppose intensively but we have signed up to no insecticides for the next 3 years. We control Foxes Carrion Crow and Magpies 20, 20 and 60 odd respectively

Has any these Organisations looked at how much land in GB is actually shot over. I believe i've read somewhere 75% or there about is farmland and woodland so would it be safe to say at best 30% would actually have lead on it, and most arable land would be moved every year for drilling hence buried or mixed into the top 6", woodland it would be buried under the foliage in the fall. So in my opinion a very small risk

Your absolutely correct there were a few specially on the granite rocks most though fell through trees

I have in the past been lucky enough to shoot at an estate in Wales renowned for Pheasants on the higher side, and there birds all go through there own shop, the guns are allowed one brace. But they do use the bigger breeds of pheasant and the longer ranges they shoot at mean very very little is wasted.

Just as an aside we have pheasant one a week either in a casserole or roast, probarbly eat more than I shoot. But not sure I'd pay for it if it wasn't free

Yes all processed in house mostly breasted at least 4 breasts to a tray but some whole birds trayed and wrapped and the guns take as many as they want, the rest given away as the farm sell home grown beef, lamb and christmas turkeys and geese.

I shoot, beat and drill game crops on 24 shoots around us and NONE have moved to non toxic and don't intend to, we have 2 days on one commercial shoot were the game dealer takes a very small amount of duck and the venison but is not interested in pheasant and partridge even if shot with non toxic

This......Red Kites, Buzzards around us we have quite a few on the farm late spring early summer 50% gone by the end of harvest all down to raptors

Yes because Regulation and Legislation is a very well paying industry in it's own right

I can tell you now...0 Humans

Far to much common sense being used here...........👍

Early mornings and dusk is when I generally shoot most and always find more in traps on rainy days

Thanks largely or entirely to OVER regulation.