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And every remainer MP doing their best to undermine a democratic vote, all stood on manifestos to honour the referendum result!

Then they should seek asylum in the first safe country they enter. It's not like we are the first country they enter, we are just their target destination. Or are we getting asylum seekers from Wales and Scotland You may well have come across said scenarios I'll take your word for it. But you kind of missed the point of my original post. If we made more efforts to stop people from exploiting them. Like by increasing penalties etc. Then these peoples chances of being exploited greatly reduce. So I say again we need to remove the reasons why these people risk it all to come to the UK.

Will remainer MPs do the democratic thing and honour the referendum?

As sad as your scenarios are, they are based on quite big assumptions. And to answer your question, no it isn't wrong enough on any level. I stick to my original statement, that any illegal immigrant should 100% face deportation. No ifs no buts. If you want to come to the UK do it legally. We need to address the reason so many are trying to enter the UK and not settle in the many other safe countries they have travelled through. And under NO circumstances should asylum ever be considered if you enter illegally. No sad story or hypothetical scenario will ever convince me otherwise.

Why has no legal case been brought against these liers like that against Boris

How so? I'm not suggesting mine is how it currently is, but how it should be. So please elaborate, how it is wrong on so many levels. Is someone who enters the UK illegally, an illegal immigrant or an asylum seeker? The two things should be completely different and the two things should never be the same. This in my opinon (along with other things like people exploiting illegals), is largely the problem.

Mine is, anyone entering the UK illegally, should then never be able to claim asylum or refugee status and should only ever be considered an illegal and have my previous statements enacted upon them and those who exploit them. This would then take away any need for them to risk their lives to get to the UK from places of safety like France, because they will never be allowed to stay. Surely this is the way forward. If these people know that only way to stay in the UK is through legal entry, then this will stop. Now I in no way think that this will be easy to implicate and for some time they will still be risking it all to get to the 'promised land' that is the UK. But eventually it will stop.

I'm after your definition. I know my own definition.

A sensible outcome

Yes

What's the difference?

No you missed the deterrent of, no money, no house, no free ride and no prospect of getting any work, because hopefully no one is willing to risk the repercussions of employing them illegally!!! I'll admit it you may have me on this one. Maybe put them in detention camps until they decide it's not the 'promised land' and decide they were better off else where. Or just maybe we increase security at our boarders and stop them at point of entry and deport them back to point of departure.

Absolutely not. (but I think you both already knew that wasn't what I was suggesting). (Although were are more or less there in some areas) By making it completely clear that anybody entering the UK illegally will be deported, no ifs no buts. Back you go. Also make it clear that you will never be allowed re-entry into the UK once deported. And massively increase the penalties for anyone giving them a job or harbouring them. 20 years should suffice with seizures of assets and revocation of citizenship if originally not a UK national. Stop the incentive for them to risk their lives to get to the UK illegally. All the while they see the UK as the 'promised land' things like this tragedy will keep happening.

I can only think of one way to curb this. Take away the reason for risking it all!

Surely that would be armed trespass anyway, which I believe is criminal.

Brilliant

Very apt!!!

No need to tarnish his reputation, he done a better job of that, than I or Rewulf ever could No, just that a second vote should not happen and would be anti-democratic, no matter what way it is spun. Unless of course remain is not on the ballot and a second vote is for how we leave!!!

While IRA terrorists were murdering Brits, John McDonnell joked about knee-capping those who opposed Sinn Fein and later said "it's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle", celebrating "the bombs and bullets" that killed so many. Despicable... Another Remainer's hero (Taken from Leave.eu's Facebook page)

And all under the watchful eye of the EU, which some would say are needed to stop all the corruption in the nation governments. In my opinion all governments are corrupt to some extent or another, so we are far better off only having one corrupt government and civil service, than two.

Fits right in, in the EU with corruption being second nature.

Either way, I'm sure the flight time won't be 7 and a half years