col48 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hi All I'm after getting my GSP hip scored and eye scored. where is the best place to get this done. my dog i 1 now so should be ready to be scored. I am prepared to travel to go to the right place but would like not to pay through the teeth for it. any help out there ATB Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosa Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 you have pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 My vet pointed me in this direction : BVA Health Scheme Pages If others know of better / more cost effective alternatives then please share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 You're happy to risk your dog being ill for a while from the anaesthetic then? It doesn't need a test to show me that a dog's looking fit and healthy. Sorry but the only thing I can see of benefit from these tests is being able to charge more for pups or stud fees. It's more for the benefit of people than dogs and down to money rather than the claims about clean bloodlines. Just my opinion for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 By hip and eye testing you're doing your bit to help eradicate these problems( by not breeding from affected dogs). Surely this has got to be in the best interests of the breed and potential dog owners. Hip dysplasia Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerzone Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 You're happy to risk your dog being ill for a while from the anaesthetic then? It doesn't need a test to show me that a dog's looking fit and healthy. Sorry but the only thing I can see of benefit from these tests is being able to charge more for pups or stud fees. It's more for the benefit of people than dogs and down to money rather than the claims about clean bloodlines. Just my opinion for what it's worth. You couldent be more wrong...........the cost of the test is a drop in the ocean compared to the investment in time spent training a gundog to a reasonable standard. Guys like you get up my nose, "........thr cost....." anyone who breeds from a dog with a poor hip score is irrasponsable and greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Colin - are you going to breed from your dog? Little point in the dog undergoing a GA if you are not IMO. If you are going to breed, good on you - health testing and responsible breeding is the only way to reduce genetic deficiencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col48 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Colin - are you going to breed from your dog? Little point in the dog undergoing a GA if you are not IMO. If you are going to breed, good on you - health testing and responsible breeding is the only way to reduce genetic deficiencies. Hi i will do in the future. i have been told it is best to have them tested between 1 and 2 years old. ATB Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Good luck then Colin, I hope you get good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) You couldent be more wrong...........the cost of the test is a drop in the ocean compared to the investment in time spent training a gundog to a reasonable standard. Guys like you get up my nose, "........thr cost....." anyone who breeds from a dog with a poor hip score is irrasponsable and greedy. Well all I can say is you must have a damned big nose, BIGNOSE. Put me on your ignore list and then go and buy a bottle of Sinex you arrogant pleb. The greed is down to the show circuit and the kennel Club itself. The problems are far less from working stock. By the way, couldn't hasn't got an E in it. As for irresponsible breeding, you need look no further than some of the people who post on here. Colin, you do what your conscience tells you is right, I gave you my opinion (and that's all it was, MY opinion) and best of luck with it. But be prepared for 6-8 weeks of sheer hell as they grow. But it's worth it in the end to see them go to their new homes and you finally get your life back. Meg has just had her last litter. She's had three (litters of 9 each) and that's plenty. Part of the proceeds is going on her to get her spayed (being as I'm irresponsible, like). Edited October 1, 2009 by DaveK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 You're happy to risk your dog being ill for a while from the anaesthetic then? It doesn't need a test to show me that a dog's looking fit and healthy. Sorry but the only thing I can see of benefit from these tests is being able to charge more for pups or stud fees. It's more for the benefit of people than dogs and down to money rather than the claims about clean bloodlines. Just my opinion for what it's worth. the only thing I can see of benefit from these tests is being able to charge more for pups or stud fees spot on that. as is this bit. The greed is down to the show circuit and the kennel Club itself. The problems are far less from working stock. but as you say never mind the dog look at its papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Dave, don't want to get into an argument here but as you rightly say that hip dysplasia is showing up far less in the working lab, but this is only because breeders in years gone by have gone to the trouble of getting their dogs hip scored and not breeding from dogs with problems. I know your dogs have drakeshead and pocklea lines, it's thanks to people like John Halstead and others that hip dysplasia is showing up less often, but it's still out there. Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) I have bought two lab bitches this year (12 and 14 months old ) I have DNA tested for PGRA (clear ) CNM tested (clear ) Hip xrays (less than 10 for both ) Eye test (clear ) Micro chipped I didnt even consider anything that hadnt been from FULLY tested parents . And yes ! all the parents are FTC to FT winners Cost a small fortune ! BUT ! In the past ten years I have had a seven month dog crippled by dysplasia ! And another with progressive retinal atrophy (basicaly went blind ! ) Both dogs were off good working parents with decent pedigree's. ( BUT NO TEST !!! ) So this time I made sure that I took all the precautions I could, to avoid all the heartache of putting another dog down . I have never bred a Lab in my life ! So its not for money ......... Its for peace of mind ! Edited October 1, 2009 by nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I have bought two lab bitches this year (12 and 14 months old ) I have DNA tested for PGRA (clear ) CNM tested (clear ) Hip xrays (less than 10 for both ) Eye test (clear ) Micro chipped I didnt even consider anything that hadnt been from FULLY tested parents . And yes ! all the parents are FTC to FT winners Cost a small fortune ! BUT ! In the past ten years I have had a seven month dog crippled by dysplasia ! And another with progressive retinal atrophy (basicaly went blind ! ) Both dogs were off good working parents with decent pedigree's. ( BUT NO TEST !!! ) So this time I made sure that I took all the precautions I could, to avoid all the heartache of putting another dog down . I have never bred a Lab in my life ! So its not for money ......... Its for peace of mind ! QED me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Just for information As DaveK has said.................neither of our dogs have been hip/eye scored and they have produced good litters. One of the owners of a pup from 1st litter had his bitch scored..........each owner does what they believe best for their dog. AND .... SHE is 100% OK. So IF my pups are a problem then surely it would have shown up in her. I trust and KNOW my dogs. Meg will not be having any more pups. Max may be put to a suitable bitch (I do not need scores just to know that the bitch is spot on) As for cost I would pay anything to make sure my dogs are OK. And if the Vet offered to hip/eye score for free on any of my 3 dog I would say NO as I do not wish to put them though unnecessary pain and discomfort (and the possibility they may not live though the anesthetic). The choice is yours and we have made ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 what you're both missing is that hip issues can stay hidden till the dog is 5-7 years old so though you may know your dog you cannot see their hips. Hip issues are also affected not just by genetics but by the amount of exercise given as a pup etc. In breeds with issues which labs are it is wise to do if you intend to breed much. I know it costs to get it done and it won't be your problem if pups are born with issues and sold on but generally its the responsible thing to do. One pup has been fine but that is a bit like crossing your fingers and hoping they'll be ok. Obviously you'll hate that anyone thinks your wrong and yes its your dog to do as you want but its a pretty horrible problem that is very expensive for potential owners to deal with but if you can sell the pups its not an issue. I'd never buy a lab whose parent's weren't scored but plenty of punters will. You need to have seen the problem first hand to know you wouldn't want to minimise the risk as much as possible with a new pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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