chris o Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 hi as you most know i have just got a springer who is now 9 weeks old. when i take him in the garden for some training he does well but after 5 minutes or more he does not do as asked. at the moment i have been training him sit and stay useing my hand signals and the words hup for sit and steady for stay when he is on his lead he does it have to correct him quit alot but he does do it. once he has done it a few times i take him off the lead and try and he does well then gives up. is this normal? he retrieves well but sometimes would much rather just have all the attention when he is praised. can this be stopped? any extra advice on this would be great thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Little and often, at 9 weeks i would not worry he is a little puppy enjoy him for what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyspringer Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Chris personally pal, I wouldn't be rushing. Obviously you are excited with the pup but go slow, from reading your post it seems like you are training the pup, I would go from the stance of teaching the pup whilst having fun...there is no need for any formal training yet. Train the dog in a manner when the dog doesn't know its being trained, if he doesn't do it, leave it for another day...no force,no pressure. Hope that makes sense. RS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) when training my new pup i try to blend in with fun and games. i let her have a run around i role around on the floor with her then i introduce something for her to retrieve or ask her to sit or whatever i want her to do. when she masters what i want her to do during play time i then get her to do it without play but i give her treats when she gets it right. she is now learning to sit and wait before i go through a door way with her and sit before i give her dinner. i would recomend getting down on the floor with your put when doing things they seem to be less intimidated and want to come up to you more. i've had her two and a half weeks now and she sits retrieves, takes herself to her cage when ready to go to bed and lets me know when she wants to go out side. forgot to say don't rush and be patient remember puppies like to play and have fun. if you force your pup to do things without play then he maybocome bored. let him use his energy to do things. Edited November 12, 2009 by lister1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Mate he is getting bored, and you are rushing the training. Just relax and play with the pup. Sit is easy for him to understand, but just do it at food time. first he must know what the word SIT means, so place him in the sit position and give the command, once he has done this, give him his food straight away..it wont take long to identify the word SIT with Food.... Dont expect him to sit there while you are getting his food ready he is far to younge....one step at a time you have years of training a head of you to be honest.... Like I said before if you want to work on the return command let him play in the garden and when he turns to come back to you just call his name and get down low and give him plenty of praise, he will soon understand that when you call his name you want him to come to you. Its all about small steps along the way to get the bigger picture correct. I think i said to you before if you ask a question you will get so many answers and when you are new to this it is fustrating, as you dont know what to do for the best, so get yourself a book on gundog training, and just stick to it and as you gain experiance along the way and watch other people with there dogs you will be identify what is correct for the dog and you....every dog is different so dont even compare one against another even at the same age etc 1 to 1 with you and the dog, no other obstractions around and think what you are asking the dog todo good luck its going to be fun Edited November 12, 2009 by Spaniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 hi thanks for replys i have been getting low down with him didnt realise was going to fast thanks for pointing out. i do give him lots of praise and give him a treat every time he does good just thought i best say that. this is my first dog since i left home and first one i have to train. sorry if i am asking daft questions. so i will go slower and play more with him i do play with him just didnt involve play in with some trainning but will do. as said he does sit and come when told. and hope you dont think i am disraspecting you guys when i reply to any posts? i just think i should say what i have done so you guys can try and help in some way. many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister1 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 if he is sitting and recalls when asked then thats great. i wouldn't ask more from a pup. the more questions you ask and the more you reply the more people can help. have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Sounds like he is coming along a treat then, well done. Just keep asking the questions its the only way to learn and you can decide what works best for you and the dog. My 1 st Springer is coming up to 4 and this is the first season she will be out with me beating and shooting, only due to her being my 1st gundog and me not knowing what advise to take etc etc etc Like i said my 2 year old as already been shooting pigeons with me from about the age of 1,and i want to take her wildfowling after xmas as she is quite solid on the sit etc, alot more responsive to what i am doing etc The John Irvin Spaniel training books are good and when i get a few minutes to myself maybe in a couple of weeks time, (as im off for a week decorating the babys room) ) send me your address and i will copy some Edward Martin training cds i have, which will assist you in your training Just remind me or send me a PM so i dont forget Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 cheers ian. that would be a great help for me. and he retrieves well. takes a bit of persuading for him to drop his ball and trainning dummy he trys to run away sometimes with them but will eventualy come with them when he sees the treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Chris, genuinely mate SLOW DOWN!!! 9 weeks a dog should not be "retrieving well", he should be having a great time with his best mate and learning his name... that being the sound that results in lots of affection from his best mate. It's playtime, with some subtle conditioning, not training time. Take it easy and you'll do well, rush it and the wheels will come off later.... been there ATB Edited November 12, 2009 by wgd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherboy Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Chris, genuinely mate SLOW DOWN!!! 9 weeks a dog should not be "retrieving well", he should be having a great time with his best mate and learning his name... that being the sound that results in lots of affection from his best mate. It's playtime, with some subtle conditioning, not training time. Take it easy and you'll do well, rush it and the wheels will come off later.... been there ATB Fully agree........I've a pup here at 10 weeks and at it only know it's name. SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW DOWN Oh and why have you one command for sit & other for stay? Once it is given the sit command it shouldn't need any other. (that's later on of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Chris, genuinely mate SLOW DOWN!!! 9 weeks a dog should not be "retrieving well", he should be having a great time with his best mate and learning his name... that being the sound that results in lots of affection from his best mate. It's playtime, with some subtle conditioning, not training time. Take it easy and you'll do well, rush it and the wheels will come off later.... been there ATB :o well put let the pup be a pup and use this time to become best mates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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