SNAKEBITE Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 As an aside to Bipolars thread about "field fashion" I thought I would run this by you all................ In this months edition of an airgun magazine I was reading in the newsagents I saw an article about "Blaze", a camoflauge pattern from Real Tree. It is BRIGHT ORANGE!!! (with a break up pattern). The idea is safety. In the U.S. it is a legal requirement that a hunter wears some sort of orange clothing to stop other hunters shooting them. (Well they are good at friendly fire incidents after all!) In the photo it does look as though it would do the job, however it just does not look right!! The rabbits only see in black and white so to them it makes no difference. The break up pattern blends in as much as any normal camo. Another arguement is that it presents a much less threatening sight to anyone coming upon a "hunter" carrying a rifle. In this day and age is this not a good thing?, or are pandering to the "nanny state"? I can see the point in some ways and to be honest when in the field with a couple of other shooters I have been tempted to use the orange lining on my beanie hat, which was put there for just such occasions but (just in the name of safety and NOT a reflection on their shooting skills!) have not plucked up the "courage!!" What do you all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I don't think realtree blaze would have helped with the only friendly fire incident I've suffered. Happened about twenty years ago when the burk I was shooting with accidently let of his twelve bore right behind me - - - made a football sized hole in the ground about eighteen inches from my foot and covered my head in soil.... Come to think of it, I'm shooting with him again on Friday - anybody know where I can buy a kevlar vest and leggings? Any colour will do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I checked it out on the website (link below) and I can honestly say "NO" I wouldnt wear it in this country. Blaze I can see the obvious advantage to being seen by other hunters but to be totally effective it would have to blend into an orange background. Whilst countries like Canada and the states get a great variety and 'bloom' of autumn oranges and reds etc., I just dont think it would wotk in this country. Not to mention that if you can easily be seen by your colleagues you can also be easily seen by Joe Public. Something that I always try and avoid where possible. I wouldnt invite an anti to be anti! Just my opinion. Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 ONLY in America as they say...where you can also buy orange toilet paper for the same reason. Talk about taking it up the ****. Suit you sir! Some years ago there was an article about the best camo for deer stalking, it was bright dayglo pink, something to do with deer being blind to that colour spec, suit a lot of you boys on here no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 , suit a lot of you boys on here no doubt Just what are you trying to say then Sweetie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I can see the obvious advantage to being seen by other hunters but to be totally effective it would have to blend into an orange background. BUT ... rabbits are colour blind! (allegedly) It does say in the article that it is no good for pigeons. They are fashion concious by all accounts and let's face it, orange is SO last year darling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 BUT ... rabbits are colour blind! (allegedly) That they are but isnt it about concealing yourself. Even if they are colour blind they will still be able to make your outline. If you were to watch a film in black and white, you would be able to make out a shape if the shape were one colour and the background another. Remember the 'it'll be alright on the night' clip of the black and white snooker. The yellow is the ball next to the blue!! but you could still see the brighter colour balls better against the green cloth!! Bright orange on darker greens and brown ...hmmmm! Regards Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Fair point indeed but isn't that the case with any camoflauge? There are limited shades in black and white of grey, but each colour has the same amount of shades as well. Just takimg the primary colours thats 3 times the amount! Oh why did I start this I have only myself to blame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) If rabbits see in two tone then it wouldnt matter what colour you wore as long as it blends in with the background. Anyway, who is it that has voted to wear the tutu? thats not gonna look good in the field!!!! :yp: Joe publics definitely gonna think a phsyco is on the loose! :( Regards, Axe. Edited August 15, 2005 by Axe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I would wear it if I was Dutch and followed the national footy team. Other than that, you would look like you'd been tago'd. Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 reminds me about the story i heard from the states where they have to wear the the orange hi vis jackets while shooting. good i dea i hear you say to protect the hunters from friendly fire. And yes it works until the animal rights people hit upon the bright idea of putting the jackets on the deer LOL was the highest number of hunter casualties recorded that month in the local hospitals LOL ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 OK, if rabbits are colour blind why is best to use a red filter on a lamp when lamping? Surely just a dimmer (white)light would work just as well!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Just maybe they cant see the red band of the spectrum as well as other colours. Im sure I have a link somewhere of a study into what rabbits actually see 1 mo..... ....aha! here it is: Rabbit Study Does it really answer the question?!? Regards, Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clone Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 wow that looks bloody awfull never in a month of sundays would i wear that i will stick to my normal camos ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Just maybe they cant see the red band of the spectrum as well as other colours. Im sure I have a link somewhere of a study into what rabbits actually see 1 mo..... ....aha! here it is: Rabbit Study Does it really answer the question?!? Regards, Axe. for gods sake dont start this one off again LOL thats it give me the tutu!!!! Im off for some bunny bashing LOL ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Hi, Perhaps if you try stalking the rabbits in a tutu and get close enough they will die of laughter. (LOL) All the best FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilv Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Talking of wearing bright orange - anyone remember that sad case last year when a kid was shot while out lamping with his father? Terrible thing that - I think it was the dad that fired the round, but am not certain. There must be a high chance of that when people in groups are shooting in the dark. Maybe fluorescent reflective jackets for lamping expeditions??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 It's only movement that we need to worry about. I believe the colour/s are insignificant. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 not even movement, its shape, if they register something as a shape that they see as a threat they scarper, however if you are say sat in a chain in the middle of a field they will happily come out infront of you. trust me, sounds bizzar but ive done it before, on bits of land where the hedgelines run in such a way that you cant get in a hedge and have a safe shot. its not ideal as movement also plays a role in identifying you as a bad object. but it works. dpm does me with the colour of my surroundings, as LB says i think colour is a bit of a conn. hense why wood pigeons will fly straight over you as long as they cant see your face and your still, its movement and them recognising your a threat (quick movements of a gun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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