chris o Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 hi all i have just got some new permission shooting rabbits on some cabbage and i think also maise. but want to hit the bunnys at night i have a hand held torch wich is fine for spotting the eyes but no good for looking through the scope at them. what candle power should i use that will not only pick there eyes up but also see them through the scope i shot one tonight but i seriosly wounded it as could only see its eyes and could not see its head but did find it and finished off but i want to avoid this happening again. what candle power then? thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) You'll be asking whether .22 is better than .177 next There are quite a few options open to you. Give us an idea of how many beer tokens you have to spend and you'll get a better idea of what to go for. Edited November 23, 2009 by Alpha Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 prob about 20-30 quid. but my question was what candle power i should use that will pick them up so i can see down the scope and spot them not see darkness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 At airgun range anything above 140Lumens as a rough guide. I bought a 230Lumen torch with mounts and pressure switch from dealextreme and the whole lot cost about £15. The nice thing is it will go happily onto my soon to be here .22LR as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Remember that if you intend to fit a red filter it will cut your lamp output by up to 75%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Remember that if you intend to fit a red filter it will cut your lamp output by up to 75%. And a red filter is advisable as once you have lamped and missed a few ribbits they will soon get educated to the lamp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris o Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 thanks for all your advice on makes of lamps. but i wanted to know what candle power should i use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) They refer to lumens these days. 12.57 lumens to 1 candlepower. Therefore a 250 lumen lamp as advertised virtually everywhere for airgun hunting will be around 20 candle power. Edited November 24, 2009 by UKPoacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 They refer to lumens these days. 12.57 lumens to 1 candlepower. Therefore a 250 lumen lamp as advertised virtually everywhere for airgun hunting will be around 20 candle power. Whilst mathematically correct, it's a pointless thing to do when you're buying a torch. You'll often see halogen bulbs quoted in the millions of candle power so you'd expect lumens to be twelve times as much but it doesn't work like that. Likewise you'd be unlikely to then buy a LED torch if you thought it only had 20 Candle power. You need to try a few out or read up on reviews by shooters because what would be a great lamping light on your gun wouldn't be such a great torch on your pushbike simply down to the way it throws the light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I know. But the complexities of measuring light are a bit beyond that of our understanding. I personally use a torch advertised at 200 lumens and while it is OK when unfiltered it is only good for 20 yds when a red lens is added. When I had a rimfire I had a one million candle power lamp and that was far too powerful even when filtered. You pays your money......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Pew Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 This is the best lamp comparison website I managed to find during weeks of research into something I made more complicated than it had to be. Just view the photographs until you see the beam that you like and remain blissfully ignorant of the science behind lumens and footcandles. I ended up buying a Tiablo A9 with 53mm collimator head which throws a tight beam right where I want it.... on the target. The spillage from my previous lamp simply illuminated an escape route for my prey, while now they pause to consider leaping into the darkness. This hesitation is usually fatal. The website is for comparison only and it's up to the individual to track down a supplier. I'd be glad to help if anyone has any difficulty in finding who supplies their intended torch. http://fonarevka.lux-rc.com/ Tiablo A9 and accessories here: http://www.inovatech.co.uk/shop/product.ph...t=28&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Some good advice on here, as always. Just wish I'd red it before buying my lamp the other day. Still, it seems to be ok but time will tell. I think a lot of folk tend to find it quite bewildering as to what lumens and candle power relate to. I'll tend to ask what's the reach of the beam and how long can I expect the batteries to last. There's a good website here - http://www.design-led.com/designled/designled_home.html which I've been looking to buy from. Will have a look to see if there are any suitable for mounting on an air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) L.E.D lenser make really good torches i've got a few small handheld called V9's if you mounted it to an air rifle it would be more than you would need i'm trying to make a mount for my .410 hushpower baikal for rabbiting. l.e.d lenser do make a scope mount not sure about filters though. failing that my handheld deben tracer is spot on and they can be scope mounted there the one's doc very very good torches far better than anything maglite have to offer i thought it was the police tech which came with the scope mount, ill look on lensers home site i think there a little cheaper too edit- its not the V9 i got that free its a keyring torch the torch i was refering to was the V2 professional i just checked it sorry Edited December 5, 2009 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo. Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Have a look at this, it's the best light you will get for the money, my farmer friend has one and he swears by it. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12V-HAND-HELD-SPOT-L...=item53d875d8bc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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