Pigeon_snIPer Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Hi, I just purchased a few of these. I find it strange that these have no external markings except over the end itself and brass marking. Can someone please give some info on this. John Edited November 27, 2009 by Pigeon_snIPer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Lovely. It looks like they have "Kynoch" stamped on the brass. A bloke called George Kynoch had something to do with Eley. So they could well be Eley cartridges. I think he was a Scot and "Edinburgh" is stamped in the rolled turn-over. Maybe a connection? Edited November 27, 2009 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_snIPer Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 The brass actually says - ELEY-KYNOCH. Ive never heard of anything called Pneumatic so was wondering what it was. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 The pneumatic wad was made of waxed card rolled and cut into a short tube of the appropriate dimensions to fit the bore. This short tube was then crimped at each end giving a wad the same length as a conventional felt one. The theory behind it was that the air inside the above described wad would provide a sort of pneumatic cushion, one which would compress quite rapidly under the force of the expanding powder gasses and compressing shot, but would, albeit slightly, reduce the felt recoil by virtue of the air expelled from the collapsing wad. I`ve loaded some of these myself as I have a bag full of them. It`s difficult to tell from empirical testing as to whether they give any actual benefits. One of the reasons that they might have long since been discontinued is that they were quite fiddly to mass produce and therefore relatively expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Note: A thick card was placed inside the sub-calibre* tube before it received the crimp closures. The 12 gauge 'wad' was purple and the 16 gauge was a neutral or straw colour. They appeared when felt was needed for other munitions and before the Eley 'Kleena' vegetable-fibre wad. The shells in the pic are probably from the 1930s/1940s in my opinion, because they have the copper 1B Percussion Cap. Spent wads from these shells were common around the fields where I lived in the early 1950s and even these wads would be from old stock. They took on a carbon-black concertina shape after firing! I have a bagful too. I'll post a pic if not beaten to it! Refers to i/diameter, of course. Edited November 27, 2009 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_snIPer Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Thanks ppl. 30s and 40s - ... good lord i hope they do fire. - What is the average shelf life of these? For those who have used it... how did they perform. Thanks again. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I'd be inclined to hang onto them as opposed to firing them! FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_snIPer Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Collectors items ? :-) /s/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_snIPer Posted December 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I tried 2 of these today. One did not fire the other did but fouled up the barrel a lot. /s/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry c Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I'd hang on to them mate, might be worth something to a collector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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