welshwarrior Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I had a leasson with my old Berreta 682 and was told the comb was far to high for me now. I orginally bought it as it had a high comd and 15 Years ago need it. Now I'm 30 and not used it much I thought I'd have it out but was shooting much worse with it than my Side by Sides and a friend 682 Gold. So how much will it cost me to have the comb lowered, (I take it a gunsmith eill have to sand down and re oil it) and will is effect the value of the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy11 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Not necessarily...... We always bend them....that way they can always be put back... Im left handed and need a lot of cast....have been through quite a few guns over the years .... When i sell them on i just put the cast back to RH and off they go.... If your gunsmith can do it , it shouldnt cost much more than £50.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry c Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just out of interest how do you 'bend' a stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just out of interest how do you 'bend' a stock? That was my next question suerly you would have to steam it or use modern IR heating etc how would you stop it cracking or is that why the gunsmith says adjustments at owners risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 How have you changed facially so that the 682 does not fit you now? And yes stocks are bent at your risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I've grown from a skinny 5'10 15 year old to a large 6'5 lump. The gun used to fit like most teenages (or so I'm told) I needed a higher comd until I filled out. Whats best then bend it or remove wood and what prices £50 seems cheap? If its bent what are the chances of it snapping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) Is your 682 a trap gun? because the Gold stock and the 682 sporter stocks should be very similar. The easiest thing would be to alter the stock on your gun to the same measurements as the Gold, I would just have it sanded down and refinished. Edited December 7, 2009 by BlaserF3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) Yes it's a sporter but very thick stocked if that make sense theres alot of walnut there, more than his Gold. Edited December 7, 2009 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Thought as much. Do you not know anyone who is good with wood, it's not that difficult to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 As Blaser says get a bit taken off the top and refinish the stock, I did that to a Silver Pigeon (or rather, a gunsmith altered the wood with me in attendance to check how low I wanted it and I redid the oil finish). Casting an O&U left or right is ok but up or down is more likely to result in problems with fit around the action and an over-stressed stock bolt - so I was told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I think the stock will be thicker at the sides as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I think the stock will be thicker at the sides as well. Blaser are you suggesting I'll have to have wood takken from the side of the stock as well as comb? This is now sounding very expensive!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Do not be so shocked It's just that if you only remove wood from the very top of the comb you will be left with a very thick piece of wood to rest your cheek on, this could result in you eye not being in the center of the rib. http://members.aye.net/~bspen/fit.html This might explain thing better. http://woolleyshooting.com/Articles/lesson5.html If you have it altered professionally it will not be that expensive compared to buying another gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy11 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Its a piece of cake once you know how....... But if i told you , ide have to kill you..... Seriously......... I have done literally hundreds..... 2 heat lamps (the type used for keeping birds and such warm) set up on a straight piece of timber, linseed oil on a baking tray, action in a vice, held firm with wood and ragg.... Heat area just behind action, thinnest area of pistol grip,,,,heat for maybe 15 - 20 mins, basting continually,,,they burn easy so lots of oil, The grip will start to bubble... Then you need to cut a piece of timber so as to add pressure in the direction to bend , obviously your vice and bench needs to be near a wall. behind it.... Add sufficient pressure as it will bend back somewhat..... After you happy with with the amount of pressure you have added, leave for over an hour..... Experience is the only tool which will help you know how much pressure to add to get desired affect.... Hope that makes sense....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 How high is too high? A seminar conducted a few years back by the ICSI by a group of professional coaches concluded that in about 70% of cases what was perceived by gun-owners to be dimension problems with their gun, was in fact problems with stance and mount. In a large number of cases, a good coach correcting the heel position in the shoulder, putting the feet right etc, made std stocks fit the majority of people. Before you take the saw out, get another opinion and look critically at your mounting technique. Remember also, too high is rarely a major problem, but too low is a big problem If you are high you can still see and aim with the rib, and your vision of the target is excellent. The ONLY thing too high does is lift the pattern a bit, and thats often an advantage - driven game and trap shooters prefer high. Too low will cause gun stopping, off eye take-over, bead aiming and all sorts of problems - so think carefully before changing the comb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 How high is too high? A seminar conducted a few years back by the ICSI by a group of professional coaches concluded that in about 70% of cases what was perceived by gun-owners to be dimension problems with their gun, was in fact problems with stance and mount. In a large number of cases, a good coach correcting the heel position in the shoulder, putting the feet right etc, made std stocks fit the majority of people. Before you take the saw out, get another opinion and look critically at your mounting technique. Remember also, too high is rarely a major problem, but too low is a big problem If you are high you can still see and aim with the rib, and your vision of the target is excellent. The ONLY thing too high does is lift the pattern a bit, and thats often an advantage - driven game and trap shooters prefer high. Too low will cause gun stopping, off eye take-over, bead aiming and all sorts of problems - so think carefully before changing the comb. Cheers Clay man I don't have this problem with most other guns borrowed a Lanber yesterday standard measurements and shot fine with it. When I pattern m,y 682 90% of the pattern is high mt SXS are all 60% high. I just struggle to hit anything with this gun. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 There must be someone near you that does this. Within 5 miles of me i can think of two chaps who offer to fit your gun to you. If you want their names and numbers I will give them to you. Don't worry about re-finishing your stock, there are kits you can buy to do it yourself. I used one and posted the pictures on here ages ago. They come up far better than the original Beretta finish :( If you really want to keep the gun then have it fitted, if not trade it in for something that fits you ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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