Goldfinger Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Are there any reasonably priced 3ins carts for general use (Pigeon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Are there any reasonably priced 3ins carts for general use (Pigeon). 3 " pigeons ? nooooooooo they dont mix if you want to eat em. 2 3/4 32 no 6 is heavy enough imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjobill Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 are u out of ur mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???:good:??? 3inch carts areb like gold and for special outings only 70mm is plenty for any pigeon or any game u comeaccross in uk wildfowl isn where heavy load s come into play BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I was aiming to find a cartridge that would cycle through my hatsan, it seems that length is more important than load,I appreciate that 3ins carts are over top for pigeon and 2.3/4 would be the better option,just wondering what the prices are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I was aiming to find a cartridge that would cycle through my hatsan, it seems that length is more important than load,I appreciate that 3ins carts are over top for pigeon and 2.3/4 would be the better option,just wondering what the prices are. 2 3/4" cartridges will cycle correctly in your Escort and will be a heck load cheaper than magnum loads! 30-32gms of 6 shot is ample for pigeon and as for manufacturer-they're all much the same as the rest.Kent Velocitys are cheap and do the job though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 be cheaper in the long run to sell the hatstand and buy a proper auto if it will only cycle 3" cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Na, just sussing best carts in general for escort before forking out,on large amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I was aiming to find a cartridge that would cycle through my hatsan, it seems that length is more important than load,I appreciate that 3ins carts are over top for pigeon and 2.3/4 would be the better option,just wondering what the prices are. Sell it, and by a better make Semi automatic. - Seems like you've got one of the 'troubled' Escorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Thank you all, it hasn't had above 20 or so carts though it, realtree 30g 6 so I will give time and find best suited carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 if it won't shoot 30 gram 6's in 2 3/4 cartridges take it back where you got it from and demand a refund as its about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 These were 2.1/2 carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Get a Beretta, Remington 1100/11-87 or a Benelli. Put out the extra cash and the guns will cycle on tubes of Smarties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) try these: http://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/products/ga...l_pigeon_12.cfm select the 32g 70mm (plastic or fibre, I use fibre always) and I bet you'll be better. Just buy a few at first to try. or for more power/gas recoil at a cheap price (steel) try these: http://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/products/ga...eel_game_12.cfm 32gram EDIT: failing that, take the gun back and tell them it's unfit for purpose and get your money back. Chris Edited December 9, 2009 by chris t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Are there any reasonably priced 3ins carts for general use (Pigeon). I personally prefer RC 50's or saga 50g in 3's for pigeon. For pheasants I think you can't beat the new Italian loaded Remington heavy lead in 3 1/2".....They do a 2 1/4 oz load in 5's. They come in packet's of 10 which look nice and are quite well priced too. I was worried about smashing the birds about using these loads, but I was told if you aim off center, your target envelopes the outer extremities of your pattern still giving you a clean kill without too much messing up of the meat. To consciously aim off center, I found the best way to do it was work with an opposite cast. Me being a left hander, I shimed my gun over to the right, that way you still aim on target but in fact you are shooting to the right thus enveloping the edge of the pattern. Daft, but it works!!!! Regards Edited December 10, 2009 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I used Hull Speicel Pigeon 70mm 6 and found them to be ideal for my Escort,shot a good amount though gun today and never it missed a beat.It is corect to say that it's the lenght of cartridge and not the load in Hatsans that matter if you don't want it to keep jamming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris t Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Good to hear you've found a suitable cartridge. I find those 70mm hull pigeons work perfect. Have to say, tried some hull steel 32g today, and boy they make the gun cycle quick/well. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I used Hull Speicel Pigeon 70mm 6 and found them to be ideal for my Escort,shot a good amount though gun today and never it missed a beat.It is corect to say that it's the lenght of cartridge and not the load in Hatsans that matter if you don't want it to keep jamming. Both really. 70mm cartridges are the minimum Hatsan recomend,but they also claim 24gm will cycle-which is a bit optomistic.Because they're gas operated they need a certain amount of pressure to make it cycle,but the most important thing is to clean the gas vents everytime you get back. Mine is really just a pigeon gun and gets 32gm 6's through it with no problems cos i keep it clean.They do seem to be a Marmite gun though where you either love em' or hate em'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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