lowlander Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 ive decided on my cabinet now, but me and dad cant come to a decision of where were going to put, he thinks it will be fine to be on top of a worktop but still bolted to a wall is this ok lowlander p.s it will be inside a cupboard so it is still out of veiw if this makes any difference ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 It's always difficult to give a 100% answer without the whole story, but this sounds fine. Out of site is MUCH preferred, and affixed to an appropriate structure with the appropriate fixings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) I needs to be out of view from "Casual visitors" the FEO will have the final say as always PS just saw your PS lol Edited January 17, 2010 by Slug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) It would be a considerable security weakness if you were to put enough space under it for someone to get a jack or lever under it. How your FEO will see this though I don't know. It would take someone very keen and with previous knowledge of your safe to turn up with a hi-lift jack and rip it off of the wall, but it is possible all the same. A good solution if it's going in a solid corner would be to drill the sides of the safe too and bolt it to both wall faces. That way it would be a lot harder to lever off as whichever direction you give a direct pull in, the other bolts will be being pulled at 90 degrees to their hole so will not come out. I suggest you take a picture of where you want it to go and e-mail it to them asking if it would be ok there. It's not somewhere I would put it but if it passes their needs then really that's all you need to worry about. At the end of the day if someone comes in tooled up to remove it they will Edited January 17, 2010 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I bolted mine right through the lounge wall with 1/4 inch steel plate sunk in the wall..needless to say I did it when the misses was away..She never noticed all the Polyfilla on the wall for 2 weeks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 mine is raised 3ft off the floor with nothing underneath and the FAO was fine with it, although it is in a alcove the same width as itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 mine is raised 3ft off the floor with nothing underneath and the FAO was fine with it, although it is in a alcove the same width as itself Mine is about a foot off the floor passed several inspections over the years the comment about a jemmy makes sense, a small gap would allow the insertion of a pry bar a large gap is just the same as the access above not giving a lever point (ok Fulcrum) for the bar. Inside a cupboard sounds good provided the cabinet is secured to the wall not to the fabric of the cabinet and be sure it is a suitable wall 'drywall'(boarding) is unlikely to pass inspection. Provided the safe is out of the sight of vistors you have complied with the requirements You are not expected to allow for special tools is a I am pretty positive that anybody who repairs landrovers can open a gun cabinet within a short time never mind jack it off the wall my 10" angle grinder told me so not to mention the air tools best defence is them not knowing where it is. and so much the better if the room it is in can be locked as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Exactly, the person has to know you have guns for a start. As long as its bolted to a solid main wall and out of sight then that is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersclan Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 as long as bolted securely with good sized bolt headed screws into a good stud wall and out of sight should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 mine is in the loft but its a big PIA getting up and down there. My FEO made a comment that he is a bit dubious about putting them in the loft because people get lazy and don't put their guns away if they know they are going out shooting again next day or whatever. I might move mine down to one of the bedrooms. I read something a while back about burglaries and gun safes. It seems a lot of people who suffer a burglary don't lose their guns in the initial burglary but get hit again a short time later and this time only the safe gets targeted. What happens is they see the safe but don't have the time or tools to get into it so they go back later better equipped or tell one of their mates who is more "professional". Most burglars don't go up in the loft so thats why I put mine there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I read something a while back about burglaries and gun safes. It seems a lot of people who suffer a burglary don't lose their guns in the initial burglary but get hit again a short time later and this time only the safe gets targeted. What happens is they see the safe but don't have the time or tools to get into it so they go back later better equipped or tell one of their mates who is more "professional".Most burglars don't go up in the loft so thats why I put mine there in the first place. Thats a good point to be honest. Speaking of lofts... ive always bolted my cabinet to a solid wall. But, my friends house has really really **** walls. Its an ancient old house and everytime i tried to drill holes in the walls, the cement / plaster / bricks just turned to dust. So, im trying to think of an alternative for him. Would he be okay bolting it to a main wooden roof beam or something in the loft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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