Tom&Dexter Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Hi I have a 10month old Vizsla who ive been training Had no specific gun dog training so far but would like to get him to a standard where he can come out with me rough shooting and be sent to retrieve. not looking to train to FT standard just as a shooting buddy. he will come and sit to the whistle and sit to hand signals and other basic stuff down, wait at road side, and sit stay busy working on this in the park with distractions at the moment. taught him stuff like bowing rolling over and giving paws but not much help in the field :blink: Wont need to be a specific HPR trainer just some one to train me more than the dog cheers Tom Local to newcastle would be good Edited January 23, 2010 by Tom&Dexter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookbones Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) iv been looking myself for a long time in the northeast.. i have trawled the gsp clubs/pointer clubs ect but as far nothing. many very good trainers recommended but in far flung counties. training pointers n their ilk is not like labs or spaniels. i can say waidson gundogs in dunston is good but its more a general gun training apposed to hpr . if you find someone let me know n i`ll do the same,good luck n cheers steve fargo has had no out sourced targeted training but he is very able both working from the hide or rough shooting, i take him beating ect ....you may find your fellas natural abilities kick in once he is immersed in the field, dont forget at 10month hes just a pup yet when he gets out with other dogs working chances are he`ll get his game head on. im not sayin it will be without set backs, god 1st few times fargo squared into fences running in,stole birds off other dogs as well as the shoot cptn`s game carrier,brought a bird back in what i can only call an oven ready state, but it was seeing other dogs work that brought him back inline. you need to get him out n dont be heavy handed when he puts a foot wrong<iv seen hpr type dogs that shy from completing a retrieve cos of this>.i must say iv never felt pride like the 1st time he hunkered down n stalked 100yrds b4 droppin into a perfect point on a sitting cockbird that every other dog missed :blink: as u say u dont want a ft champ n nor do i,like u i want a shooting companion that is enjoying what we do as much as i enjoy seeing him work. Edited January 23, 2010 by hookbones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Found this one http://www.craigelachiegundogs.co.uk/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Found this one http://www.craigelachiegundogs.co.uk/index.html Where on that site does it say anything about HPRs? There are some videos of what a HPR is supposed to do on youtube but I can't seem to find one! It's not the same style job as training a spaniel. Edited January 23, 2010 by PERCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom&Dexter Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) As far as i can see it doesent However it was nice of rabbithunter to take the time to have some input into helping me out with trainers in my area, who possibly may point me in the direction of what iam after thank for the link via pm also PERCE Edited January 23, 2010 by Tom&Dexter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Sorry, didn't intend to come over as a snotty ******. Try http://www.thegundogclub.co.uk/Training/aw...me/hprtests.htm I do know that they Gundog Club took a bit of stick over the lack of info for HPR owners, I think it was possibly something to do with lack of trainers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Where on that site does it say anything about HPRs? There are some videos of what a HPR is supposed to do on youtube but I can't seem to find one! It's not the same style job as training a spaniel. Maybe he can give them a ring and ask if they now of only where local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun tim Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 ian tait from berwick upon tweed hes a top trainer semi retiered now but may be able to help pm me if you want his number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Its interesting and you're a bit behind me Tom my GWP is now 2.5 years and we're getting there, at the moment concentrate on basic obedience and steadyness. Play retrieving in confined spaces and don't push it too hard you usually have to work at it as retrieving isn't as natural for them as labs etc. mine would do two retrieves get bored and just stand there looking at me while I threw the dummy. As far as taking out with the gun start very carefully and I'd leave it till well over the year mark and then go out behind other shooters so the dog gets the idea but without close gunfire as they are a lot more sensitive to it IMHO. If you've the chance go beating while on a lead next season and see how you go if the dog is fairly steady you can start letting off the lead for controlled periods and if you have a walk you can do daily with birds down that will help no end. Mine has been beating this season and the results have been interesting to say the least, she will point birds as they flush and stalk in which is great at the end of drives as you don't get the crashing about and mass flushing that spaniels and labs can cause. Walked up she is now fantastic and works very well with me its like it flips a switch and she stops playing and goes into work mode. Retrieving as has been mentioned they can take a while to do well and I've had the same at the start and thought she'd never make it as wounded birds she did tend to squease a bit too tight if you get my drift but the more she did she's just stopped doing it and is now retrieving well. Doesn't like retrieving pidgeons but I'm sure we'll get there. On runners etc she puts labs and spaniels to shame and I think its purely due to the breeding that she goes on them like a hound and I'm fairly sure she can smell blood from them as she approaches the trail very differently to a usual pheasant. One things for sure its a hard frustrating learning curve but as has been said a lot of satisfaction once they finally mature a bit and you also have a fantastic dog to go with it, certainly mine doubles up as a pet and you couldn't want for a better natured dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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