JonD Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I don't have a copy of the rules to hand but know the limit is 28g, can anyone confirm if i can use 21g on a regd shoot? Just started using them in practice and have been amazed with the performance but have no problem using 28g if required. Cheers, jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 There is nothing in the rules about using less pellets but why handicap yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 There is nothing in the rules about using less pellets but why handicap yourself? Makes sense lol, just started killing more with less so thought i's ask the question I'll stick with a 28g Intercomp HV for the reg'd then Cheers, Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 21g fine. If you're shooting better with them, the use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Jon... you're always telling me to stop changing things, and you had your PB today with the 21/9s, so I'd stick with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I shot a 75 straight on the skeet with 21g a while ago so they seem to work. If you are using them in practice, use them in competition - otherwise you will just screw your head up if you chop and change over shot grammage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Jon... you're always telling me to stop changing things, and you had your PB today with the 21/9s, so I'd stick with them! LOL, just wanted to check i can shoot them in competition Sticking with the 21's, as for handicap i think they are the opposite. I only switched to them last weekend and am happy with the change, they work really well Jon. Edited January 25, 2010 by JonD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) 21G not a problem in skeet .The main advantage with the 21g comp x is the lack of recoil makes it easier to get onto the second bird on the pairs. They are also very cheap so don`t pay over £4.00 a box or your being well stuffed I`v managed to switch quite a few skeet shooters to them because of it. Edited January 27, 2010 by COACH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'm another who's switching. I didn't shoot any better but I did apprEciate the lack of recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covlocks Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 If its less recoil you are after why not use 24's. More pellets than a 21 and dependant upon what charge is in them, can be as smooth or smoother. My missus used to use Comp X 21's. We spent a while doing some "blind" comparisons and she now Express 24's, because they are smoother. Its not always about the size of cartidge, its what is in it for propellant. Some propellants are just much faster burning, and give more of a recoil, than a slower burning ones. Look on the makers web sites and the cartridge spec will tell you what is being used. Its all about FPS at the end of the barrel - Fast Burn = higher FPS = More Recoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 There is nothing in the rules about using less pellets but why handicap yourself? Its not a handicap, its an advantage. Lots of us found our scores with 24g practice loads were better that using competition 28g, and the realisation came that the fatigue caused by the wallop of 28s is actually detrimental to overall performance. If you bang your shoulder, smack your cheek, and rattle your brain 100 times your concentration is reduced. Highest results come from having the concentration to reliably put lead where it counts, and for many its more about the ability to concentrate on accurate placement of the shot load with lighter and slower loads, than it is about spraying the sky with as many pellets as possible. ALL my straights have been with 24g - never did one with 28g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I do agree about less recoil and that's why I use an Urika but the top class competitors would not dream about using a 21gm cartridge when 28gm is legal. If recoil bothers you use an auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) I`m with Clayman on this one If I want to use a 24g I use the Hull 24g Intercomp If I want to use a 28g I use a 28g Hull Comp X. All are very good and have very little recoil, also cheap . Edited January 27, 2010 by COACH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yep Hull Pro Ones 24g 9's for me and my 16 year old lad ,really nice balance of power and reduced recoil compared to 28g's.Now just got to get the ****** to buy his own now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks all, the recoil isn't really noticeble to me but i'm sure it must have some effect. I have only been using them for a week, the main reason being cost over recoil and the cost difference being 8 extra practice rounds free per thou. I'm going to stick with them anyway, my PB was a 21 until Sunday and using the 21g shot a 17, 21, 21,23, 21. I have a thou on order from Just Cartridges and am going to pick another thou up at the weekend. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I like shooting 21gms through my Miroku as the recoil level is relatively pleasant. If I shoot 24 gms in fibre after 50 shots my shoulder aches, 28 gms through an O/U weighing 8lbs my shoulder aches for about a week. My gun fit is excellent and I have shot clays for over 30 years, but recoil is cumulative and it will affect everyone who uses a shotgun, even though you have the odd one who says "It doesn't bother me " but it will in years to come. That's why I use a gas operated semi auto to soften the recoil and you can use 28 gms just like the top shooters without giving them a head start on pellet count. You would not race a 125cc motorbike against a 250cc would you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have only been shooting 9 months or so, i have shot 250 28g in a day and that did make me feel very tired and not want to shoot anymore. I'm still looking for a Urika but not in a hurry to change anything. As for the bike Q, yes, there are slow 250's and fast 125's. I have a 1000cc BMW tourer yet it wouldn't beat a 125cc Aprillia in a race, mind you the Aprillia rider would probably have lost the will to live after 60 miles lol. I won't make a judgement until i have stuck with the 21g for 2thou or so but am sure the straight isn't far off. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Clay shooting is really enjoyable and most folks are friendly and you will be told all sorts of contradictory things and it's up to you what to believe in. It's good just to enjoy it without getting battered to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I've shot 21gms for the last year and I have yet to come across a target on a normal sporting that won't break with them. I actually have read there are more holes in the pattern of a 28 gm cart and a 21 will kill more targets if positioned correctly. Recoil aside I challange anyone to a test of 21s v s 28s and not get similar scores with each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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