Swarovski and Ziess scopes on rifles with moderators

[al4x]

Just read the above post from Harv...

 

Hmmm... Very interesting and extremely odd.

 

Nevertheless, how on earth can they prove you were shooting with a mod on your rifle?!!

 

 

probably the type of damage done gives an indication to it and presumably the problems aren't occuring in parts of the world where they aren't used

[gixer1]

Just read the above post from Harv...

 

Hmmm... Very interesting and extremely odd.

 

Nevertheless, how on earth can they prove you were shooting with a mod on your rifle?!!

 

 

From the conversation I had it was to do with how the resonanse (spelling??) moves along the barrel to disperse but a moderator throws it back, apparently it's not such an issue with the newer scopes as apparently the reticule is etched into the glass? but it is with the wire reticules...

[gixer1]

probably the type of damage done gives an indication to it and presumably the problems aren't occuring in parts of the world where they aren't used

 

 

Right enough Alex a as there aren't that many places geographically that use mod's are there?

 

Regards,

 

Gixer

[Billy.]

probably the type of damage done gives an indication to it and presumably the problems aren't occuring in parts of the world where they aren't used

 

Yes, but the G force is only really going to be in one direction (Aside from when it moves back by the force of you leaning into the gun). The forward force that's caught by the reflex mod wont jolt it forward, it'll just counter the backwards force from the explosion.

 

I'd agree if the gun jolted forward (With considerable force) after shooting.

Edited March 26, 2010 by harfordwmj

[Dekers]

This is straight from Swarovski website a few minutes ago, look up the warranty for all their scopes if you like, the link is there...

 

I can't find anything about this moderator exclusion, if you can please let me know, until then.....

 

 

PV/PVI-2 6-24x50

 

Warranty EN

When you buy this optical product from Swarovski Optik, you will own a

top-quality instrument for which we grant a worldwide warranty of 30 years

for the rifl e scope and of 2 years for the BE 4 Digital from date of purchase

in accordance with the following conditions:

If defects in material and/or workmanship appear, we will take over

material costs for the entire warranty period. We reserve the right in such

instances to repair or replace the instrument or the defective part at our

discretion. During the fi rst fi ve years we will take over the costs for materials

and work.

This guarantee in no way limits the statutory warranty obligations.

In the event that the range of products is changed, we reserve the right to

repair defective instruments or to replace them with those of equal value.

We undertake no liability for repairs carried out by a repair shop which has

not been authorised by us, nor for damages caused by improper use, nor

for direct or indirect damages brought about by defects on the instrument.

In addition, all parts are excluded from the warranty which are subject to

natural wear, such as eye cups, carry straps, cases, armouring, etc.

This warranty is valid only when this warranty/service document has been

duly dated, stamped and signed by the authorized dealer on the day of

purchase.

In a warranty case and as well for service and/or repair work please present

the instrument to your authorized Swarovski Optik dealer together

with this warranty/service document or send it, delivery-free, directly to our

address. Instruments sent without the warranty/service document enclosed

will be repaired and the costs charged to the customer. The return shipment

of the instrument, insured (means of transport at our discretion), is free of

charge in the case of repairs covered under warranty, otherwise charged to

the customer. For shipments to foreign countries any foreign customs duties

or fi scal charges are charged to the recipient.

This warranty is given by Swarovski Optik KG, Absam, Austria. The place

of jurisdiction is Innsbruck; Austrian law applies.

Insofar as other guarantees/warranties (whether legally prescribed or

voluntary) are pledged in individual countries, these must be fulfi lled by

the respective importer or authorized dealer. Swarovski Optik KG, Absam,

Austria can therefore accept liability only when a legal obligation exists to

do so.

Remarks for the United States of America:

For warranty services all products purchased in the United States, our

only warranty authorized service is through Swarovski Optik North Amerika.

For further information please call 1-800-426-3089.

 

http://www.swarovskioptik.com/en/warranty

[gixer1]

Out of interest does my Habicht PV have an etched reticule or a wire one?

[Dunkield]

no just ask for a copy of your certificate with your claim form

I have 3 rifles, which one was it on?

What if it was on my PCP air rifle that isn't on a ticket etc etc...

[harv]

I have 3 rifles, which one was it on?

What if it was on my PCP air rifle that isn't on a ticket etc etc...

 

Well i would think you'll be okay the stu, not too much recoil on them

[bullet boy]

Rubbish!

[harv]

Rubbish!

 

 

you need to speak to joseph begsboel or is it joseph goebbels- the minister for propaganda!!!! he states any thing but willys jeeps are covered

sorry guys april fools a bit early but i thought somebody would have sussed it

[gixer1]

Gents,

 

I recieved an e-mail back from P.R's they seem like very helpful guys from the e-mail and sent the reply very quickly. -

 

Hi Garry,

 

As far as I'm aware all three of the big European suppliers in rifle optics, Swarovski, Schmidt & Bender & Zeiss will no longer warranty their scopes when used on moderated rifles.

 

Swarovski have been improving their product line with glass etched reticles that are much less prone to damage than a traditional wire reticle. Nightforce have been doing this for some time. The use of a moderator subjects the scope to much more abuse than it was originally intended to take. I guess the general course of action will be to not admit that there was a moderator on the rifle if there was ever any reason to send a scope back to the respective manufacturers.

 

Many of the larger rifle retailers are beginning to wonder how they are going to handle the increasing amount of complaints they are getting about rifles loosing zero / damaged scopes. I guess the scope manufacturers are in a similar position. Apologies that this may not give you piece of mind. If it's any compensation the after-sales service from Swarovski is second to none.

 

Regards

[Beardo]

wow that's all a bit of a bombshell, unbelievable

[Colster]

From the conversation I had it was to do with how the resonanse (spelling??) moves along the barrel to disperse but a moderator throws it back, apparently it's not such an issue with the newer scopes as apparently the reticule is etched into the glass? but it is with the wire reticules...

 

 

That makes even less sense then... as said above it won't affect existing warranties on scopes that MAY have a problem (wire reticles), but the wording will be changed for new scopes that WON'T have a problem (etched reticles)?

 

Madness.