Vipa Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) OK guys... opinions please... Will have £1k to drop on a scope for my .243 (when I get it) anyone offer any opinions on what I should be looking at, I know S&B, Swarovski (maybe expecting too much!) etc. but specific models, features and in particular, reticles. Use will be 70/30 deer/range Cheers Paul Edited March 27, 2010 by Vipa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Nightforce NXS 5.5 - 22 x 50 NP1 RR. Its a touch over but you wont ever regret spending the cash. Swillington were knocking these out for about £1,200 - bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo. Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Have a look here Vipa, they have a very good name. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc...zMK1ThfJB9AcMSg http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.r...uzo5Q_q4oBjRJNQ ATB Bobbo. Edited March 27, 2010 by Bobbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 S&B Zenith, 2.5 -10x56.Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 S&B Zenith, 2.5 -10x56.Brilliant. That's the one I had in mind Steve but with a flash dot reticle, I don't think it's going to come in anywhere near the £1k mark? Bobbo, thanks for that link, he has loads of Swarovski gear grade 1 S/H and the prices mean I could have a Z6 which I had written off due to them being almost twice my budget. What about reticle? am I better keeping it simple and going for duplex or similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) I've not had a vast amount of experience with £1000 scopes, mainly just at shows!! Only used a handful in the field or on the range and I rather think you will get pretty obvious makes/models mentioned here. And human nature being what it is, not many owners who spend £1000 or more on a scope are likely to turn round and say it is rubbish, but to be fair they shouldn't be anyway, perhaps though, not best suited for the purpose they had in mind sometimes You obviously have to consider distance and weather conditions here as well, what do you really think you are going to do with it on the most regular basis. Another consideration is weight, I like light rifles, and I also like the Nightforce, but from the day I first read up on these I thought the listed weight must be a misprint, it isn't, they weigh a ton and turn versatile light hunting tool into a lump! So lots to consider, and there is no way I could suggest a scope to you as it gets very personal as well. ATB with your search! Edited March 28, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I've not had a vast amount of experience with £1000 scopes, mainly just at shows!! Only used a handful in the field or on the range and I rather think you will get pretty obvious makes/models mentioned here. And human nature being what it is, not many owners who spend £1000 or more on a scope are likely to turn round and say it is rubbish, but to be fair they shouldn't be anyway, perhaps though, not best suited for the purpose they had in mind sometimes You obviously have to consider distance and weather conditions here as well, what do you really think you are going to do with it on the most regular basis. Another consideration is weight, I like light rifles, and I also like the Nightforce, but from the day I first read up on these I thought the listed weight must be a misprint, it isn't, they weigh a ton and turn versatile light hunting tool into a lump! So lots to consider, and there is no way I could suggest a scope to you as it gets very personal as well. ATB with your search! Thanks Dekers I was originally going to spend £500 but then, it's an investment. With Swarovski for e.g. I am told the warranty is second to none which means a lot to me and it should hold it's value. Use will be .243 100-150yds deer and a little target stuff at the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choke it Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 try these mate i just bought a swarovski 4-16x50 off them cheap http://www.rmacleod.co.uk/optical.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 If your looking at a fixed power scope then I'd say you won't beat a Schmidt&Bender 8x56!As soon as I looked through my mate's S&B 8x56,I had to get one! I can't recommend this scope enough-BRILLIANT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Thanks Dekers I was originally going to spend £500 but then, it's an investment. With Swarovski for e.g. I am told the warranty is second to none which means a lot to me and it should hold it's value. Use will be .243 100-150yds deer and a little target stuff at the range. A number of the expensive scopes tend to hold their value reasonably well and will offer some sort of risidual down the road. I note you mention the thoroughly realistic distance of 100-150 yards for deer, most of mine are under 200yards, a few out to 250, rarely above 250! On the basis that deer shooting is DAY shooting, and assuming your target work is basically zeroing and a bit of fun (rather than serious competition) than £500-£1000 seems very acceptable to me! Spending as much as you can on glass is seldom a mistake though! ATB!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 You look at most Deer Stalkers and in my opinion they use a fixed power scope,hence why I said about the S&B 8x56. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 A number of the expensive scopes tend to hold their value reasonably well and will offer some sort of risidual down the road. I note you mention the thoroughly realistic distance of 100-150 yards for deer, most of mine are under 200yards, a few out to 250, rarely above 250! On the basis that deer shooting is DAY shooting, and assuming your target work is basically zeroing and a bit of fun (rather than serious competition) than £500-£1000 seems very acceptable to me! Spending as much as you can on glass is seldom a mistake though! ATB!! Yep, you are right re the range stuff with this weapon, will be the odd fun day to keep the barrel dirty and zeroing. I am going to invest in a .308 next year which will be used 80% range / comps and bigger, longer range deer on the odd Highland stalking trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 You look at most Deer Stalkers and in my opinion they use a fixed power scope,hence why I said about the S&B 8x56. That has crossed my mind too.... do I really need variable on this gun. If I go fixed I will save a few hundred quid and at the end of the day, if I go variable, will probably stick it on 8 and leave it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Confusing myself a little more now! I can get a Schmidt & Bender 8x56 scope for around £550 so am now thinking 'do i need to spend a grand?' What is the difference (apart from where they are assembled) between German & Hungarian S&Bs? and is an illuminated reticle a wate of 2-300 quid? Ta again Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Confusing myself a little more now! I can get a Schmidt & Bender 8x56 scope for around £550 so am now thinking 'do i need to spend a grand?' What is the difference (apart from where they are assembled) between German & Hungarian S&Bs? and is an illuminated reticle a wate of 2-300 quid? Ta again Paul just bought one second hand on here for £325 and well I'd recomend doing the same. Great scope shot a few rooks yesterday up to 200 yards and no issues at all with the magnification. As for the illuminated ret all i can say is try a non illuminated one first and see if you need it illuminated. IMHO they are so different to looking through a cheap scope that you may find you don't need it. Certainly in daylight I wouldn't have an issue with shooting to 300 yards plus with mine just depends if you're into long range sniping or normal shooting as to whether you need more magnification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 just bought one second hand on here for £325 and well I'd recomend doing the same. Great scope shot a few rooks yesterday up to 200 yards and no issues at all with the magnification. As for the illuminated ret all i can say is try a non illuminated one first and see if you need it illuminated. IMHO they are so different to looking through a cheap scope that you may find you don't need it. Certainly in daylight I wouldn't have an issue with shooting to 300 yards plus with mine just depends if you're into long range sniping or normal shooting as to whether you need more magnification Nahhh... that comes next year with my .308! this one is going on a .243 and will be used almost exclusively for daylight/dawn/dusk deer! I think I'm slowly but surely talking myself out of variable on this one as it is going to be a tool rather than a toy! All I need now is to get my head round the german/hungarian issue and talk myself out of flashdot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 they're the same scope same bits but assembled in different countries. Of course if you go fixed a nice new illuminated S&B is well within your budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 An old harnserism , never spend more on a scope than you did on your rifle . Even the cheaper scopes will give very good service . £300 will buy you a very good scope , the other £700 will buy you a lot of ammo to practice with . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 An old harnserism , never spend more on a scope than you did on your rifle . Even the cheaper scopes will give very good service . £300 will buy you a very good scope , the other £700 will buy you a lot of ammo to practice with . Harnser . Or lots of re-loading gear!!! I'm very much now erring towards a. second hand b. fixed magnification and c. non illuminated. Still want S&B or Swarovski though but looking on the interweb I shouldn't need to spend more than £700 for variable mag and £500 for fixed. If someone will sell me an illuminated one privately for the same price I'll pay from a dealer for non-ill... then I'll be chuffed to bits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Confusing myself a little more now! I can get a Schmidt & Bender 8x56 scope for around £550 so am now thinking 'do i need to spend a grand?' What is the difference (apart from where they are assembled) between German & Hungarian S&Bs? and is an illuminated reticle a wate of 2-300 quid? Ta again Paul Paul,as i said i cant recommend the S&B 8X56 enough!I have a S&B 3-12x50 Illuminated Reticle scope on my Tikka T3 Lite 22-250.I have never ever used the Illuminated facilty cos simply i dont need it,plus my scope is always set on 8x power as its sufficient enough for my needs.If your after a scope with crystal clear glass then look no further than the S&B 8X56.I bought the Hungarian model which is superb,its the same parts from the German factory assembled in Hungary,thats all.As i said previously as soon as i saw my mate Steve b wales` S&B 8X56 Hungarian-i simply had to get one.ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Let me know how you get on and what you purchase?Anything more i can help you with just let me know. ATB mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostrea Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Spent the whole weekend having a look at difference scopes for a Tikka super vermint .223 that i hope i will have a licence for soon depending on how quick N Wales police are at first time applicants for firearms! I have also settled on the Schmidt and bender 3-12x50 illuminated anyone had any dealings with http://www.creazanbre.com/about.htm scopes seem to be a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Spent the whole weekend having a look at difference scopes for a Tikka super vermint .223 that i hope i will have a licence for soon depending on how quick N Wales police are at first time applicants for firearms! I have also settled on the Schmidt and bender 3-12x50 illuminated anyone had any dealings with http://www.creazanbre.com/about.htm scopes seem to be a reasonable price. Christ.... they're cheap!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Bought my S&B 8x56 Hungarian from R.Macleod and Son,Tain,Scotland!They give me a very good deal and will definately deal with them in the near future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Nahhh... that comes next year with my .308! this one is going on a .243 and will be used almost exclusively for daylight/dawn/dusk deer! I think I'm slowly but surely talking myself out of variable on this one as it is going to be a tool rather than a toy! All I need now is to get my head round the german/hungarian issue and talk myself out of flashdot! This seems a strange issue that has developed over the years, there is apparently no difference except the price I don't have either but know, or have known those with them, and I have never heard any complaints about the Hungarian yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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