darren m Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Any one got the above breed cross , do you really get the best of both , what are your opinions . thanks Darren . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Good article in this weeks Shooting Times about them Darren. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Any one got the above breed cross , do you really get the best of both , what are your opinions .thanks Darren . Can't see why you would want to, two different breeds with two different disciplines. 1 Spaniel : bloody hyper hunting dog who wants nothing other than raking around looking for anything to be flushed to the gun. Unsteady and not wanting to sit a peace for any length of time at all. 2 Lab : Intelligent retreiving dog who is steady as a rock and able to take directions to find shot game and retreive to hand. Always remember that a Lab is born half trainned and a Spaniel dies half trainned......why would you want anything inbetween either of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berthaboo Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 sorry but dont agree Spaniel : bloody hyper hunting dog who wants nothing other than raking around looking for anything to be flushed to the gun. Unsteady and not wanting to sit a peace for any length of time at allgree with i have a springer who is steady and will stay still for long lenghts of time so much so i take her pigeon shooting if you are willing to put the time in when training you get good results and its hard work but its worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 what age is your spaniel and how is it bred mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 BRF, you are out of order mate with your reply. Have you watched these hybrids at work? I was at a shoot today where the 'keeper was using a springador for the first time. It was amazing watching a black lab work like a springer. I spent most of my time, when i had to walk one, watching this hybrid and think that it will make a bloody good working dog. May have been one in a hundred, but somehow I doubt it. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 BRF, you are out of order mate with your reply. This forum is about opinions LB and this is mine like it or lump it pal. It's a matter of horses for courses and these things are hopeless from what I've seen of them but then this is in the real shooting world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 As is mine BRF thats why I posted. Best not post if you don't like answers that don't follow your opinions. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 maybe out of order is a bit strong then...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 I have been watching this cross with interest for the past several weeks, and I have seen some very impressive dog work. Like anybreed though you will only get out of it what you put into it. Personnally I like the little boogers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davhope Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 As this thread seems to be all about personal opinions, Heres mine, I think potenially this hybrid could be a fantastic working dog but like almost all working breeds, The way a dog is handled is probably going to dictate if a particular example makes the grade. By that comment I mean that generally some trainers have a natural affinaty to a particular breed, They can train both but either prefer or specialise in one particular breed. Now when a hybrid comes along it takes time for people to learn the particular charictaristics of that breed, strengths, weaknesses etc. How many times do people see profesionally trained dogs loosing the plot on a shooting day because the owner hasnt taken the time to learn how to control them properly. I myself have only seen one example of a spanador, it was a pup of about 6 months and looked like a black lab with big spanial ears and a thicker chest, but a work collegue took him with him to work every day and the dog just went to sleep in his van without destroying the interior. It may take a while, but if the breed live up to the potential,And trainers can work out the best approach to getting the best from them. Im sure we are going to see a lot more of them on shoot days. Because the pup I saw was the result of an {accident} he only cost his owner 50 pounds. Looking forward to more info, David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 maybe out of order is a bit strong then...... Fair enough BRF LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 I tried to vote multiple times but it wouldn't let me LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONO Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Our family has had two Springadors so I have some thoughts... I think, as with any hybrid, you could get the best of both worlds - both of ours were hard-working and keen to flush...unfortunately not too steady but steadier than some. Conversely I think there's a very real risk of getting the worst of the breed's characteristics. My personal opinion is that I'd rather have a specialist dog which knows what it wants to be and can listen to instinct rather than taking a gamble and possibly end up with one confused pooch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Conversely I think there's a very real risk of getting the worst of the breed's characteristics. My personal opinion is that I'd rather have a specialist dog which knows what it wants to be and can listen to instinct rather than taking a gamble and possibly end up with one confused pooch. This is where I was coming from Jono........not meaning to totally demean the breed but instinct is what really makes the dog, whilst you only get out what you put in it has to be there to start with, like anything else without a good foundation it will start to fall apart no matter how much maintainance goes in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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