Daveo26 Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Iv got a Browning 325 30" 12 bore that i use for clays and i shoot it really well (for me) I have taken it out pigeon shooting a couple of times and it collected a few marks I want another gun for game/pigeon shooting! I doesnt have to be a 12. infact i was thinking of a 20 maybe even a 28 bore Not bothered about an o/u either. I used to have a battered Zabala S/S that i shot well with but it was double trigger and i could'nt get on with it I quite like the look of the Zabala lux berri, Has any one got any other suggestions? got about £500 to spent Cheers Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Anyone? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) £500 that will get you a corker of a SxS or a good Semi which seems to be the preferred pigeon gun. (hell £500 would get you a nice SxS and a Semi!) Browining A5 if you keep it in the family are £250 ish upwards Browing Gold £400 ish upwards Browing medalist O/U From £325 ish quite few for under £500 in Browning on guntrader I would stick with 12G as cart prices are lower (semi's recoil less) and more choice for a knock about gun there's loads of semis from escorts franchi benelli browning midland etc but if browning fits out the box would be an idea to try a few out! http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...howtopic=121946 might be of interest Edited April 12, 2010 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Hi. I use a 425 12 bore for clays/my main gun. Also have 20 bores o/u. Silver pigeon a real cracker. But for hide shooting I use an old 16 bore non ejector s/s. It is worth saying if you shoot really well with your 325 then a s/s will mess with you a bit as they are so different.But once used to it great hide guns/light etc.Shoot sitting down then your brain will see it as a different game to your clay gun..but do not expect to chop between the 2 and to shoot consistently well immediately because you won't. For £500 you will get a great s/s dont be afraid to go non-ejector,no one needs ejectors in a hide and you will get more gun for your money. Also I think 16 bores are underated,I think it is a great gauge especially for pigeon/rough shooting and an oz of 7s will take any reasonable pigeon to 40 yards.If you buy an old english gun I'd also expect you to pretty much get your money back in the future so clearly it makes sense to buy one!(its an investment Darling...).!! Double triggers ;you would get used to with use and frankly give far less problems than single triggers in your budget range so I would'nt see that as a factor..plus old english/s/s double triggers are a real authentic gun!! ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Cheers for that gents, Iv had a couple of semi autos in the past, im not keen on one for a rough gun as they are a ball ache to clean and not as easy to make safe for ditches/fences and the like. Im thinking of going for one of these beasts....CLICKY 3" chambers, multichoke, built like a tank and im hardly going to ruin its looks if i drop it :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 hmm semi to make safe rack bolt 3 times max? Baikal SxS or O/U? Multichoke in a rough gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 hmm semi to make safe rack bolt 3 times max? Baikal SxS or O/U? Multichoke in a rough gun? Yep unless the gun has a mag cut off but then you have to put the cartridges back in the gun, with o/u or s/s just break and they are safe. Im thinking about going for the o/u Baikal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) , with o/u or s/s just break and they are safe Unless you fall over and close the breach!!! Never shot a baikal but they have a good reputation Edited April 13, 2010 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) I looked at the Baikals before I bought the silver pigeon but the action was totally plain bright steel and it wasn't that light IIRC, which made buying a 20g a bit pointless. Autos are good and I have a 20g Hatsan that I love but trying to find the empties is a PITA Edited April 13, 2010 by sitsinhedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Best pigeon gun I ever owned was a browining, I think twelvette, never realised how good it was till I sold it for £180 with 2 barrels. Someone had a good bargain. It was light and was handy to load, just feeding another in from the side if you only had taken one shot so you never were caught with the barrels broken. Its only downside was the fixed choke, it did give excellent patterns but I usually used the 3/4 and if you had a close bird it certainly plucked it. Needed room for a new rifle, shame, I hope someone is still enjoying it. There are plenty of really good cheap guns about but make sure you know a little bit about what your buying as you can be caught out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) If I were buying a gun specifically for hide and rough shooting I'd be looking at something light and short, and also used, not new. There are plenty of SxS or O&U guns around under your budget that won't be ruined by another scratch. Edited April 13, 2010 by UKPoacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I agree about not buying new, Thing with light guns is i cant shoot them. Im over 6' and weigh ahem..... a fair bit. So i need a fair old chunk of a gun, Im going to look at a Moscow Purdey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) I agree about not buying new, Thing with light guns is i cant shoot them.Im over 6' and weigh ahem..... a fair bit. So i need a fair old chunk of a gun, Im going to look at a Moscow Purdey. Wow a Vostock for a hide gun I bet you use a Kreigoff for ratting! Not many Baikal O/U on the S/H market which must be a good sign I doesnt have to be a 12. infact i was thinking of a 20 maybe even a 28 bore Not bothered about an o/u either. I used to have a battered Zabala S/S that i shot well with but it was double trigger and i could'nt get on with it I quite like the look of the Zabala lux berri, You choose guns like my missus chooses shoes! Good luck you may find a baikal is a bit short in the pull as the average moscovite is not particularly tall perhaps an american gun Winchester etc nice one in budget at Swillington Shooting Supplys Edited April 13, 2010 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) Get a nice pump action and be done with it. £500 would get you a dandy one. Drops the cases at your feet and does not chamber a round unless you want it to. Not too lightweight either. Used by millions of Americans for years and have plenty of fans on PW too. Edited April 13, 2010 by vole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Wow a Vostock for a hide gun I bet you use a Kreigoff for ratting! Not many Baikal O/U on the S/H market which must be a good sign You choose guns like my missus chooses shoes! Good luck you may find a baikal is a bit short in the pull as the average moscovite is not particularly tall perhaps an american gun Winchester etc nice one in budget at Swillington Shooting Supplys Do you mean Vostok because i mean Baikal. Does your Mrs choose her shoes by asking people with more experience of shoes then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclestuffy Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) I agree about not buying new, Thing with light guns is i cant shoot them.Im over 6' and weigh ahem..... a fair bit. So i need a fair old chunk of a gun, Im going to look at a Moscow Purdey. A fair bit..... I would say that you can climb walls/fences very well for a fat lad. Mind you I was once a slim version of what I am now Have you thought about getting a blunderbuss to improve your hit ratio? I know you like your old fashioned blask powder. US Edited April 14, 2010 by unclestuffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 A fair bit..... I would say that you can climb walls/fences very well for a fat lad. Mind you I was once a slim version of what I am now Have you thought about getting a blunderbuss to improve your hit ratio? I know you like your old fashioned blask powder. US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 i would stay with the 12g mate the carts will work out cheeper and if you like the browning id use it all the time.I had a old lambr for me pigeons a a sp3 for the clays but after a while started to soot cra* with the lamber poss it had no cast and the sp3 is a r/h but if you have a gun you like use it my sp3 is the only gun i use at the mo for all my shooting at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Get a nice pump action and be done with it. £500 would get you a dandy one. Drops the cases at your feet and does not chamber a round unless you want it to. Not too lightweight either. Used by millions of Americans for years and have plenty of fans on PW too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Chip Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I agree about not buying new, Thing with light guns is i cant shoot them.Im over 6' and weigh ahem..... a fair bit. So i need a fair old chunk of a gun, Im going to look at a Moscow Purdey. I to am 6' and am heavier than I should be. I use a 20g Browning 525 with 30"ers to swing as a rough gun and it's the best I have ever used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I really dont want to use the browning, id rather save it for best.... Does anyone out there want to donate a well used browning for the cause? im not bothered if its a 325, 425 or a 525 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I think the issue is you cant shoot well with 2 guns so its either buy an older cheaper version of what you have already or soemthing random (keeping as close as poss will help) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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