Vince Green Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 The word is that things have tightened up considerably at Bisley now and all shooters are now being made to produce their competence certificates before they shoot. Where a group booking is made all the members of that group have to produce their certificates. No certificate = no shoot. Groups and individuals are being turned away if they don't have them . One day recently four pre-booked groups were turned away. Apparantly the NRA have been suprised at how many unauthorised individuals there have been in some groups. All I can say is that if they are suprised I am not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I am amazed they haven't been checking them all along, doesn't seem any point in having them otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Well i think they have been taking it on trust. If a club is an approved club then the idea has been that they are run by responsible people who know the rules and will stick to them. It that it appears they have been disappointed. I am amazed they don't do a lot more spot checks on the actual ranges, espescially Short Siberia. Not just for certificates of competence but also for membership cards and FACs About three years ago I had reason to go back into the range office at the end of the day to complain about the general lack of safety and attitude of a group shooting next to us on the 200yds. The man in the office checked the sheets and said nobody else was booked on the 200yds except us that afternoon. Then he just shrugged his shoulders and pulled a face as if to say what can I do? Of course by this time they were long gone. This sort of thing used to go on all the time, its not so common now but it clearly hasn't been completely eliminated. If we are going to have rules lets see them enforced. Last year I booked a range on a thurday for training some novices and when we turned up there was somebody else using our target. It must cost the NRA a lot of money in lost revenue. Edited May 19, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I've always been asked to produce my certificate of incompetance before being able to collect squadding cards for competitions but have never been asked to produce it on a normal days shooting. Having put so much effort into training club instructors etc it seems bizarre that they don't spot check. As far as our university club goes, no card = no shooting, you wont even be given a lift up to Bisley without it. Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I've always been asked to provide mine.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Didn't they introduce these certs after a car dealer found a bullet hole in the side of a car about 2 miles outside Bisley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Didn't they introduce these certs after a car dealer found a bullet hole in the side of a car about 2 miles outside Bisley? must have been some holdover cos we need to produce them at catterick aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 It is a regulation which covers all MOD ranges and was introduced by the MOD on safety grounds. In the case of Bisley behind the ranges is a safety zone but after that there are houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 I have never been asked for mine, the NRA keep moving the goalposts anyway. I did an assesment with them last year for scoped and gallery rifle and the tickets ran out at the beginning of this year. Now they last 5 years I have shot several TR competitions and have never been asked for mine. The dafence zones at Bisley are shared with Pirbright and will only contain a ricochet, a 7.62 round fired over the butts will clear the zone. There was a car dealer who reported a hole in his roof and a bullet laying on his showroom floor. Apparently the NRA knew what range it had come from but they wouldn't say publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Didn't they introduce these certs after a car dealer found a bullet hole in the side of a car about 2 miles outside Bisley? That was probably a car dealer after a new door for one of his motors The old and much used original story was a 7mm bullet was found lodged in a garage door frame, but these stories take on a life of their own after a while, you never know what to believe. If you think how many millions of rounds must get fired there a year it has a very good safety record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 I thought the army shot a car on the m3,anyhow check the news bisleys on fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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