speeding ticket

[sbald]

As stated even if the speed is in question you have admitted you were speeding so probably easier to take the penalty,but if you wished to contest it you will have to go to court.

 

 

There are no restrictions on where an officer stands.

 

 

This is not true according to the ACPO guidelines

 

 

 

"31.2 The operator must be clearly visible to the public and the target vehicle throughout the check."

[ph5172]

Did you stop and ask if you had been caught speeding or did you make a call after you received your NIP?

 

From what i read you were speeding, saw the check, slowed down and went back to ask?

[Snap Cap]

As a courier I have collected quite a few points over the years, the maximum I had at one point was 18. I've now got a clean licence and intend to keep it that way.

I've argued the toss with them on more than one occasion and always came off second, in the end my advice is just pay the fine. There is no point in trying to find some loophole thats gonna get you off. I know I've tried all sorts.

Also you have admitted to doing over the speed limit anyway so in fairness you haven't got a leg to stand on.

[discreet hunter]

If you are guilty, take it like a man, it you are not then fight it, since getting my sgc, i am very carerful when driving....

[tbox]

I got flashed doing 37 in a 30. I hadn't realised that it had changed from a 40 in recent months. My first response was 'this isn't fair... it was a 40 last time I drove it and I believed I was in the speed limit!!'. once I calmed down, I thought, well I obviously wasn't paying enough attention if I hadn't noticed it had changed, so took it as a "fair-cop" and got away with a 'speed awareness course' - no points which was good.

[teal27]

If you were doing 29 in a 30 and the camera said 41, would you be happy to accept your punishment then? I'm pretty sure you would not.

 

I was doing around 35 nowhere near 47, I asked to see the calibre

 

*** you started a thread now your bleating

 

EITHER go to court and contest it or shut the **** up

 

we ALL break laws I do so do other PW members but we don't bleat about it deal with it move on

 

First of all i have a clean licence and if i was doing 35 and they think they clocked me at 47 then the machines faulty one way or another, so u`d just roll over and take it obviously!! ive got a back bone so i`ll will fight it thanks!

 

Theres always one person who has to post something unhelpful, looks like we`ve found him

[activeviii]

Speeding is speeding, if you speed then you will get caught at one stage of another. speed limits are there for a reason so please think about why there is a limit. its not there just for the police to put funds in there pocket, you might think it is a stupid speed limit on and open road but it will be like that for a very good reason, just ask the mother that has lost a loved one on that stretch of road.

I lost my kid brother a few years ago when he was speeding and hit a brick wall, dead straight away, was doing an estimated 40mph in a 30 zone, caught the loose stuff in the middle of the road on a bend. hit head took the full impact as he didnt like seat belts. guess thats why we have rules on the road. for our safety and other road users, not to pee us off.

 

i got flashed 3 time in a mile stretch of the M5 with road works, my fault i was 10MPH over limit so i was just waiting for the ticket to drop on the mat, that was a few years ago but i still have not heard anything. thinking i had got away with it the one day when i got pulled in in a 30 zone, copper told me i was doing 37mph and slapped me with a SP30. i took it on the chin for all the times i ha got away with it in the passed.

 

I never speed anymore, cost to much to do it, what with fuel prices and camera's. besides i have to much to loose if i kill someone from speeding.

 

Pay your money and move on.hehe. lesson learnt........................sometimes

[peek-at]

As stated even if the speed is in question you have admitted you were speeding so probably easier to take the penalty,but if you wished to contest it you will have to go to court.

 

 

There are no restrictions on where an officer stands.

 

 

This is not true according to the ACPO guidelines

 

 

 

"31.2 The operator must be clearly visible to the public and the target vehicle throughout the check."

 

 

 

 

 

 

let me clarify...

 

ACPO guidelines are exactly that.... guidelines-a code of practice if you like and not LAW.

so when I say there are no restrictions on where an officer stands I was coming from the law standpoint.

 

For example...The ACPO guidelines say that drivers should have a fixed penalty ticket at 35mph in a 30mph limit but an officer has discretion and may well give a few stern words of advice. (hope you see where i'm coming from)

 

However I suppose to be super accurate I would have to agree with the point you are trying to make as the ACPO guidelines show the method by which the devices should be used to meet police 'policy'

 

As I said originally, it needed to be clarified if the device was radar or laser as the ACPO guidelines are subtley diferrent for both.

You are quite right in quoting 31.2 but if you read carefully it relates to Laser/Optical devices.

 

12.1 e refers to radar devices and states 'Operators of devices should normally do so from positions where they will be clearly visible to the public'

(does not include driver of target vehicle)

 

Splitting hairs I know but if you are quoting ACPO guidlines at folk its best to be accurate.

 

The 'spirit' of the guidelines is that speed detection is out in the open and not covert in any way and i agree that officers should not be hiding themselves away from view when doing speed checks.

 

We obviously do not have the full facts as to the position of the officer at the time or what type device he was using so going any further into this is speculation.

 

Summary

Laser - should be in view of public and driver to comply with policy

radar - should be in clear view of public