garyfirth Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 i need to start reloading my old 410 shells before i end up skint. my daughter is using them at an alarming rate. i am confused with all the different stuff. what primer/powder/shot/wad and how to. is it better to buy brass shells? it is confusing as i am a novice. if you have a tried and tested recipe i would be grateful if you would share it with me. many thanks gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Have a look for postings by 'Sitsinhedges' on this site ... everything from diy kit to loads and so much more than you ever need to know .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) You have to be careful when selecting powders for .410 bore (known as 36gauge* or 12mm on the Continent). Powders like Vectan SP3, Winchester 296, Hodgdon H110 and Hercules (now Alliant) 2400 were the old faithfuls. The site below is useful: http://www.bordingl.com/zliscia36.htm You will notice that the primers are MEDIUM strength. I use an even 'lower' primer like the M684 and the CX50. Here is an example from the Siarm site: http://www.siarm.it/product_info.php?cPath...127f1c0128931be Tips: It's not worth buying a loading press for .410; you'll end up making scrap. The most useful tool, other than a de/re-priming tool (make yourself) and a roll-turnover tool, is a MEC Supersizer. This is expensive but if you are going to reload quantities, it's essential. This collett tool re-sizes the shell head to factory dimensions in a second. http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&s...sa=N&tab=wi However, there are cheaper ways of re-sizing if you are handy with a lathe. The turnover tools, from Siarm are well worth the investment and give excellent results: Wads can be expensive. When you get started pm me, I will help you, and any other PW member out, with .410 wads. H27, H33 and H40 *Note: The TRUE gauge of a .410 bore would be 67 gauge! FC Edited August 12, 2010 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 data availiable here http://www.hodgdon.com/basic-manual-inquiry.html Follow the links Doing the same at the mo, but thinking of using 303 cases fire formed to the 410 chamber :blink: , i'll let you know how i get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 out of interest what are you paying for 410 carts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Have a look at previous threads on using the magtec all brass cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Have a look at previous threads on using the magtec all brass cases. from memory i think there about 25 quid for 25 303 brass will do almost the same length, just needs anealing (easy) and fire forming (also easy and fun :blink: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Magtec all brass 410 shells are £ 5-95 for a box of 25 from Peter Lawman in Northampton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 crikey moses so they are, sure midway list them at £25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 They have gone up in price http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage....leItemID=151679 :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 (edited) How do you go about sealing up a brass case? By the way Lyalvale have a box of 25 2" .410 carts for under £5 a box at essex gun Edited August 11, 2010 by Brad93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 How do you go about sealing up a brass case? Usually a card wad and then a bit of silicone sealant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Use a 7/16 .45 wad punch on some thick card and press down onto the shot a punched card disc with a wood dowel and then seal with PVA wood glue ,dead easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfirth Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 many thanks to you all for your help on this topic. i have loads to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 many thanks to you all for your help on this topic.i have loads to think about I know what you mean, so have I! (Apologies) I'm about to get into loading fibre .410. Any of you littlegun loaders got any tried and tested loads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 So can you just use a deprimmer/reprimmer wooden dowel and a 45 card cutter with a bit of PVA? Do you need any FAC bits for the pistol primmers for the brass cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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