One for the builders\quantity surveyors etc

[JonD]

Finally after 7 years living here i'm sick of not having a workspace\utility area.

 

Can anyone give me a rough price that I need to be looking at for the following garage:

 

Size will be 8Mx3M, 1 side of the 8M run is the brick side of the house, it's still very early days but trying to get an idea of cost.

 

I want the best high security garage door i can afford, uPVC preferred in brown with electric opener, to the rear will be a uPVC door and window. The front and rear will need to brick to match the house, house is 18 years old and think they are london bricks, side could be block and render if it saves money but will be inaccessible after so all brick may be best.

 

It will be a flat roof unless there is a good reason to put a pitch roof on, ideally i would like 2\3 good size skylights as i won't be able to put windows in on the 8m wall.

 

Will also need the electrical side doing but will hopefully find a spark that will let me do the labouring, ie running cables, fitting back boxes, lighting etc. Garage will be about a 5m run from the main board in SWA clipped to the wall.

 

Cold water is already present and i can plumb it myself, if hot is also required that's fairly easy to get too and drainage is easily accessible.

 

Just looking for a rough idea of cost, i have a figure in mind but just want to know if it's around the right area.

 

If it helps the ground is very solid, mainly flint and rock and took me 4 hours with a Hilti to dig a grave for a chinchilla a few years ago lol.

 

Cheers all.

 

Jon.

[Cookiemonsterandmerlin.]

12kish for a good quality setup you get it cheaper but quality would suffer to major items like garage door skylights etc.

 

Regards OTH

[RED BEARD]

don't bother with the windows and skylights,just use lights it'll be cheaper.a uPVC door garage door isn't very high security,you'd be better off with a roller-shutter or steel door.i think you should get it done cheaper than 12 grand.

[vampire]

To tired to work it out now,but a lot cheaper than 12k.As said why fort knox up and over garage door then upvc door/window on the back,its top security at the front and very little at the back considering you will be using it as a workshop with lots of nice shiny tools.

Do you want cavity walls or is it just single skin brickwork.

Flat roof is ok,pitch looks nicer

Electrics will need to be designed/installed/certificated by registered sparks.

Will you have a fire door from house to garage !

[the_commoner]

dont forget to add your fees to the build cost

 

drawings and planning permission will be required, will add another £1000 by the time you are done, i would say that something around the £ 12k to £15k all told with that kind of spec inclusing all doors, windows, electric garage door if it was done by a good builder

 

if you can do some of the work yourself, ie some of the plumbing, wiring etc then you might save a couple of thousand.

[bullet1747]

To tired to work it out now,but a lot cheaper than 12k.As said why fort knox up and over garage door then upvc door/window on the back,its top security at the front and very little at the back considering you will be using it as a workshop with lots of nice shiny tools.

Do you want cavity walls or is it just single skin brickwork.

Flat roof is ok,pitch looks nicer

Electrics will need to be designed/installed/certificated by registered sparks.

Will you have a fire door from house to garage !

very true about the sparks bit im a registered sparks ,loop hole can do it your self if confident and get local council to sign it of

[djrwood]

The cost all depends on how plush you want it. To build a garage on the side of the house can be done for around 5grand probably slightly less for simpy a brick wall. If you want insulateed two skins, which you probably would, along with plumbing, heating and kitted out to be an office it bump up the cost. I think about 10k would get you a nice and secure set up pal. Just make sure when you decide what you want you get at least three quotes and then go round again saying the cheapest price. That many people out of work at the minute everyone is desperate to get a few coins.

 

ATB

 

Dan

[JonD]

don't bother with the windows and skylights,just use lights it'll be cheaper.a uPVC door garage door isn't very high security,you'd be better off with a roller-shutter or steel door.i think you should get it done cheaper than 12 grand.

 

Thanks, i don't think i'll get away with a roller shutter as it's a residential area.

 

To tired to work it out now,but a lot cheaper than 12k.As said why fort knox up and over garage door then upvc door/window on the back,its top security at the front and very little at the back considering you will be using it as a workshop with lots of nice shiny tools.

Do you want cavity walls or is it just single skin brickwork.

Flat roof is ok,pitch looks nicer

Electrics will need to be designed/installed/certificated by registered sparks.

Will you have a fire door from house to garage !

 

The window and skylight i will make metal grille's for, as for the garage door that is very overlooked as is the rear but just want a decent quality one.

 

Not sure on cavity vs single skin as i won't spend all my time in there and single skin would maximise space.

 

Thinking pitch may be better for security and also make the space feel bigger and give me head height for additional storage.

 

I know i'll need a spark to design and install the sub main and board, just thought I may be able to save money by doing the grunt work, fitting back boxes, running cables, stripping ready for final termination\testing and signoff by the spark. I trained as an electrical\electronics engineer just aware i'm not allowed to do new install but could do most to minimise costs.

 

There will be no linking door between the house and garage, access will be via the garage door from the front or patio to the rear, at some point in the future I may add a conservetory to tie the two together.

 

 

dont forget to add your fees to the build cost

 

drawings and planning permission will be required, will add another £1000 by the time you are done, i would say that something around the £ 12k to £15k all told with that kind of spec inclusing all doors, windows, electric garage door if it was done by a good builder

 

if you can do some of the work yourself, ie some of the plumbing, wiring etc then you might save a couple of thousand.

 

It's early days but could i not do it under permitted development? I suspect as i want to go to the boundary then I will prob need planning. I have a friend who is an architect so money can be saved there with mates rates

 

I'll do all of the plumbing so that doesn't need to be factored in, if i can help on the electrics as above that may save too.

 

The cost all depends on how plush you want it. To build a garage on the side of the house can be done for around 5grand probably slightly less for simpy a brick wall. If you want insulateed two skins, which you probably would, along with plumbing, heating and kitted out to be an office it bump up the cost. I think about 10k would get you a nice and secure set up pal. Just make sure when you decide what you want you get at least three quotes and then go round again saying the cheapest price. That many people out of work at the minute everyone is desperate to get a few coins.

 

ATB

 

Dan

 

Cheers, the figures quoted are not too far off, I initially had 10k in mind as a ball park figure. I'm firmly in the research stage at the moment but would sooner get the end result i want than spend £10k and get something close so would sooner increase the budget.

 

I'm also planning to get all of the soffits, facia's done in uPvc and the gutters replaced at the same time as part of the project plus having the entire front of the house block paved or done in patterened concrete.

 

Jon.

[vampire]

excavations=6m3 spoil say 2 8yrd skips at £150 ea and about 5m3 concrete £120 m3 for trenches and 3.6m3 £120m3 slab + hard core

single skin brickwork=2000 bricks £350/1 tonne sand £40/10 bags opc £40

up and over door + shoot bolts into concrete = door £300 upwards ish

window £250

residential back door £500

flat roof ( more secure than pitch) £1500 for joists/ply/felt

plastic facia/gutter = £250

electrics,depends on what you need and who you use,but as you said you could do most your self.prov £450

b/regs (no planning needed for single storey !) £100 +

£7,660

x 10 percent contingency £760

 

TOTAL PROJECT £8,420,inc labour and materials,tea and welfare facilities supplied by others

 

THIS IS NOT A QUOTE JUST ONE OF MY QUICK CALCS ,may be of help to budget but do not use to order anything etc as it is only a guide

 

party wall act !,you should check this if you are close or on the boundries.

must not drain on to highway if you do driveway in bloc paving

atb,Karl

Edited August 15, 2010 by vampire

[Symes]

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