bigt1754 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 I went to get my Airgun bottle charged this morning, it was completely empty as I used the last blasts of air to blow the c**p out of my dyson hoover (works a treat. ) Its coming to the end of its current ticket and due a test in the not to distant future...... "How long does the ticket last?" i ask, "depends on the Valve, If it has an airgun valve its 5 years, but yours has a diving valve so 2 and a half years." comes the answer. Has anyone else heard this, or am I getting swizzled?? Any help greatly appreciated. cheers bigt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Never heard that one before myself but when I got my bottle tested they asked if it was for diving or not, if it was it was a 2.5 year test if not a 5 year test so your guy maybe right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 air gun only IE surface cylinder testing is a minefield? if your cylinder is marked "surface only" the type of valve means sod all but try telling that to the tester? then its five years if its not marked "surface only" and looks as though it may be used for diving its 5 years from new IE full inspection including stretch (hydraulic check) then 2.5 years later its a visual (including internal) then 2.5 years later another full test and on and on till it fails, so basically if your cylinder is not marked up surface only has a din or A valve fitted then if its 2.5 years from its last test, the tester is within his rights. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 It's 5 years for an air rifle valve (100%), I thought it was 3 years for a diving valve, perhaps I got that bit wrong, whatever, it is less for a diving valve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigt1754 Posted August 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thanks for your help :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 It's 5 years for an air rifle valve (100%), I thought it was 3 years for a diving valve, perhaps I got that bit wrong, whatever, it is less for a diving valve! has nothing to do with the valve (100%) valves are NOT part of the test, the tests are for cylinders, the type of valve simply gives an indication of use of the cylinder,hence if you don't use the cylinder in water then mark it up surface only like I said its a minefield these days, dive shops tend to use the idest test system but should be using the newer DOT system, which gives greater test frequency times but if you are the guy filling the cylinder and you don't want your legs blowing off you would be witin your rights to say no idest no fill. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 If the cylinder has not got a manufacturer or IDEST stamp in the last test stamping a dive shop can and most probably will refuse to fill it , On testing and when filling out the test cert the retest frequency it determined by the cylinder markings and the valve configuration ie: if it is a diving cylinder but with a above surface use valve in it a large sticker is applied stating above surface use only and then it is given a 5 year retest date , If the cylinder is already stamped for above surface use then it is given a 5 year test if fitted with an above surface use valve, I was a IDEST tester for 13 year's and the amount of times i have had to go to the trade counter and argue with a customer that because the cylinder is set in a diving configuration it has reduced test frequency compared to a surface configuration cylinder but even after all these years they still do not get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 2 1/2 years seems right for a diving valve- 5 years for an airgun type Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 It's 5 years for an air rifle valve (100%), I thought it was 3 years for a diving valve, perhaps I got that bit wrong, whatever, it is less for a diving valve! has nothing to do with the valve (100%) valves are NOT part of the test, the tests are for cylinders, the type of valve simply gives an indication of use of the cylinder,hence if you don't use the cylinder in water then mark it up surface only like I said its a minefield these days, dive shops tend to use the idest test system but should be using the newer DOT system, which gives greater test frequency times but if you are the guy filling the cylinder and you don't want your legs blowing off you would be witin your rights to say no idest no fill. KW You are correct of course, sloppy wording on my part, simply used the valve as and indication of dry use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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