BIG DADDY Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Folks, I am looking for some advice please. I have just started lamping and have bought a .22 for rabbits, but would like to move up to something bigger so I can tackle the foxes. I intend to purchase a .222, but would like some suggestions on what size and type of scope I should consider without breaking the bank! Many thanks, Big Daddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesbach Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 welcome! I use a simmons WTC 3.5-10x50 on my .22 and have a browning (bushnell) 3-9x50 on my .223. neither are break the bank scopes and do the job! personally i prefer my WTC..cant fault it. only paid £70 on evilbay and it was a bargain! normally sell for £140 and IMO well worth a look. best advice that is given is spend as much as you can on a scope as you will find that otherwise you will be upgrading not long after. Big boys Toys will be the S&B's etc but with a .222/.223, the furthest shot your likely to take wont need a scope to see 500yrds+. ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 second hand S&B 8x56 is what you want, you'll regret anything else and get one in the end as foxing at last light (when they tend to appear) you need the better optics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 As you are using it for lamping, light gathering doesnt really come into it so just stick a hawke or something similar on it for about £100 and that will more than do for .222 ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 As you are using it for lamping, light gathering doesnt really come into it so just stick a hawke or something similar on it for about £100 and that will more than do for .222 ranges. why doesnt light gathering come into it mate ? i had a mtc on my cf rifle and well the optics are pretty clear after 175 yards in the lamp its image wasnt very clear. i could still see foxes but the sight picture was the best. i thnik optics are very important indeed. not only do you want to see the fox clear as poss. its also very good to see what is behind them clear. good glas simo is worth its weight in gold. under the lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 spend as much as you can on a scope (i speak from experience having swapped many scopes over the years). personally i reckon the Swarovski 4-12x50 (or 6-18x50) is pretty much a perfect foxing scope as you can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 why doesnt light gathering come into it mate ? i had a mtc on my cf rifle and well the optics are pretty clear after 175 yards in the lamp its image wasnt very clear. i could still see foxes but the sight picture was the best. i thnik optics are very important indeed. not only do you want to see the fox clear as poss. its also very good to see what is behind them clear. good glas simo is worth its weight in gold. under the lamp I aint trying to start the old "good glass debate" yes a top range scope is much better in all respects but i dont think one is compulsary for lamping purposes.If the mtc cant focus over 175 yards then it is a rubbish scope.I have a hawke on the 22-250 and have shot foxes out past 300 yards without any problems sight wise.The lad asked for a budget scope for lamping and the one i suggested does the job. If you want to check for fleas before shooting it then get a swaro,zeiss,s & b etc etc.If you just want to kill it then those scopes are not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 I aint trying to start the old "good glass debate" yes a top range scope is much better in all respects but i dont think one is compulsary for lamping purposes.If the mtc cant focus over 175 yards then it is a rubbish scope.I have a hawke on the 22-250 and have shot foxes out past 300 yards without any problems sight wise.The lad asked for a budget scope for lamping and the one i suggested does the job. If you want to check for fleas before shooting it then get a swaro,zeiss,s & b etc etc.If you just want to kill it then those scopes are not necessary. they aren't but if you sit out for foxes before going lamping they will earn you extras as well as giving you far more certainty on ID, the cheaper ones will do depends what his budget is. £300 is doable for a second hand S&B and saves you buying a better one later on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 they aren't but if you sit out for foxes before going lamping they will earn you extras as well as giving you far more certainty on ID, the cheaper ones will do depends what his budget is. £300 is doable for a second hand S&B and saves you buying a better one later on I agree,if he was after a dusk/dawn scope then quality glass is the way to go and the certainty on id should apply to anything you are about to shoot whether you are looking through cheap or expensive glass. I am not saying the hawke range are the mutts nuts but they are cheap,practical and work for the purpose of lamping foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 i have always had middle of the road sopes and have got on fine the one i use at the mo is a niko nighteater paid i think £250 for it i get on well with it day and night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG DADDY Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thanks for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Any good 8x56 European glass No4 reticle no parallex adjustment - way to go. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 they aren't but if you sit out for foxes before going lamping they will earn you extras as well as giving you far more certainty on ID, the cheaper ones will do depends what his budget is. £300 is doable for a second hand S&B and saves you buying a better one later on thats what im on about im not saying the mtc couldnt see the fox but the sight picture isnt the best. and i like to see whats about behind the fox. clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve42 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Have just got a Leupold VX1 3 x 9 x 40 delivered to my door from sportsman gun for under £200 , is a gold ring scope so life time gurantee i do alot of lamping and stalking , for the money is an amazing scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG DADDY Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thats sounds good value, I take it its brand new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 second hand S&B 8x56 is what you want, you'll regret anything else and get one in the end as foxing at last light (when they tend to appear) you need the better optics. As above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 S&B, or Swarovski 8x56 Sometimes I wish I had more mag, but then clarity and low light performance is simply stunning in 8x56. + I hate messing with mag, parallax when I need to get a quick shot off at a bolting fox. Horses for Courses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve42 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thats sounds good value, I take it its brand new? yip you wont be disapointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 second hand S&B 8x56 is what you want, you'll regret anything else and get one in the end as foxing at last light (when they tend to appear) you need the better optics. This particular scope is nothing short of fantastic.It will fulfill your needs as a `Foxing scope`! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpus Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Hi I use the hawke endurance 3-12x50 -a very good scope for dusk and dawn and great for lamping. Its got a 30mm tube and red dot in centre of crosshairs-i have been using it for nearly two years and shot a large amount of foxes and rabbits plus a few mink with it at all times of day and night and in all weathers. I paid 340 euro for it but i am sure you would get it for a lot less in the UK. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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