shotgun sam Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 when is a bullet classed as part of your allocation? I know that expanding heads are classed as a round but at what stage when making FMJ (brass, primer,powder,head) rounds are they classed as part of your allocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 OK a bullet is the bit that goes into the neck of the case, it's not a head, it's a bullet. A cartridge is the whole lot put together. The answer to your question is when assembly is complete. Expanding bullets count on their own, but FMJ do not as they are not a restricted item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Thanks Mr Logic So that means that I can put the primer into the brass and it does not count as ammo? SAm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 yep, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Oh dear. My heart rate went up again as I was reading through this. Thankyou Mr Logic for being the one to save me from ranting. Bullets are bullets, not heads. The head is at the other end of the case! When you look for a headstamp on a cartridge you don't check the bullet do you?! I'll shut up now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Man Work Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 My FEO's view is that all the components for reloading don't count as ammunition until any two parts are put together (primed brass, etc). He also said it's a good idea to get any bullet heads written onto your FAC if you can as it's handy for showing usage when it comes around to FAC renewal time. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) My FEO's view is that all the components for reloading don't count as ammunition until any two parts are put together (primed brass, etc). Mine takes the opposite view, all bullets expanding or not count against what you are allowed to hold. Bloody stupid, And he demands that all unassembled bullets are kept in the cabinet. A Edited January 14, 2011 by Alycidon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Point out to your FEO that he is simply wrong. This is not negotiable because Fmj bullets are not a restricted item. They can't count towards your ammo allowance because you don't need an FAC to buy or hold them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Oh dear. My heart rate went up again as I was reading through this. Thankyou Mr Logic for being the one to save me from ranting. Bullets are bullets, not heads. The head is at the other end of the case! When you look for a headstamp on a cartridge you don't check the bullet do you?! I'll shut up now! Nah, waste of time mate, didn't even last one post! Mind you, we've had Christmas and the New Year in between. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Wikipedia "A bullet is a projectile propelled by a firearm, sling, or air gun. Bullets do not normally contain explosives[1], but damage the intended target by impact and penetration. The word "bullet" is sometimes used to refer to ammunition generally, or to a cartridge, which is a combination of the bullet, case/shell, powder, and primer" From what Im reading you have to account for the ammunition and components you have. Over her i can work into a gunshop, produce my licence and buy prettymuchwhat I want. When I was shooting F class it was 2 kg of powder and 500 or 1000 Amax projectiles at a time. Things sem a lot different over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 And he demands that all unassembled bullets are kept in the cabinet. A Good job he isnt mine because i buy 1000 at a time in 357mag! All my bullets,primers and used cases are either in a draw or on top of desk and i dont lock powder away because in the event of a fire it would become a bomb enclosed in a cabinet.Atleast being ontop it just fizzles away in a few seconds. But yes,it dont become a live round until case,primer,powder and bullet have all come together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Mine takes the opposite view, all bullets expanding or not count against what you are allowed to hold. Bloody stupid, And he demands that all unassembled bullets are kept in the cabinet. A He is telling you one thing then Aly and me another, primed brass counts as a loaded round and he does not demand that i keep my expanding bullets in the cabinet Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 a bullet is the pointy bit at the end that comes out when the gun goes bang. Only unloaded expanding missiles (bullets) count towards your allocation. Not all FEO's know what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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