HoTsHoT-10 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I am interested to know what the maximum range is of a sub 12 ft.lbs .177 and .22 air rifle (how far the pellet will travel) and theoretically what is maximum distance a sub 12 ft.lbs .177 and .22 air rifle will humanely kill a rabbit with a perfect head shot. I am not going to try and kill a rabbit at x distance just interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoTshoT-16 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 seen some 55m head shot humane bunny kills on youtube he uses a bsa r10 .22 cal hunter called zinaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I stick to a 35 yard zero on my 12ft/lbs rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I know you asked about rabbits but: A few years ago I was decoying pigeons and one or two started landing way out of range, I wanted to keep them moving so incommers wouldn't choose that group over my decoys. I tried to scare them towards me by sending a pellet way behind them, I aimed very high took the shot and to my amazement one flew and one dropped stone dead. I paced it out as 77 yards and found I'd hit it in the neck just below the skull. I was shooting .22 so must have misjudged the trajectory. Not big, not clever and not intentional but the pellet still had enough energy to kill it cleanly. In reality anything over 40 yards and you can't be sure of your shot placement, stick to 30 if poss and enjoy the stalking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Theoretically, from a close to 12fpe air rifle, either .177 and .22 calibre has sufficient energy to humanely dispatch a rabbit at well over 100 yards. It's just not done though because shot placement at long range cannot be guaranteed or near offer. In perfect conditions and when I'm on top form I hunt with my.177 hw100s out to 45 yards these days. More when I was younger and perhaps less realistic. With a .22, I cap it down to 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Just download a free program such as chairgun to get what your looking for. Realisic range is way different from theoretical range though. Think of it like this in FT shoots the kill zone is actually about twice as large as that on many common quarry and even the best do not expect to shoot clear round after clear round at up to 55 yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTsHoT-10 Posted November 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 thank for replys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pabs Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 (edited) Maximum range is around 450-500 yards with a 23 degree angle. It ends up with about 0.3 ftlb energy. (Chairgun results) Edited November 28, 2010 by pabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTsHoT-10 Posted November 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Maximum range is around 450-500 yards with a 23 degree angle. It ends up with about 0.3 ftlb energy. (Chairgun results) wow didnt know it was that far. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 wow didnt know it was that far. :o it won't i suspect user input error, though admitedly i don't personally trust this particular program and don't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 704 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 (edited) it won't i suspect user input error, though admitedly i don't personally trust this particular program and don't use it. Lol, no user input error here! Thats using an average BC value and 12 ftlb energy. The .22 pellet would go further. We should all be very aware of just how far these little pips can go...... Edited November 29, 2010 by pabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 We should all be very aware of just how far these little pips can go...... A very good point! I take a great many more shots when out rabbit stalking or ambushing with my air rifle than with my rimfire because of the much shorter dangerous range of air power. It is worth remembering that these lead pips can still cause serious injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Lol, no user input error here! Thats using an average BC value and 12 ftlb energy. The .22 pellet would go further. We should all be very aware of just how far these little pips can go...... Nope it still won't go that far. All balistic programs assume no tumble and they do very quickly. I remember testing this at a club years ago due to a nearby roadway the only way it might get that far is with a small hurricane forse wind blowing it. Purely off memory i think your looking at only a couple of foot lbs at 100 yds (its certainly less than an air pistol) the calcs i did for my 30ft lb .22 rapid gave it a max fall out at 400 yds with less than 1 ft lb on return - assuming the pellet remained face forwards which it wont in a million years. Safety first though unless shooting up into trees a backstop is always appropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Purely off memory i think your looking at only a couple of foot lbs at 100 yds I'd say you were spot on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 If Chairgun data is to be believed a JSB Exact in .177 fired through a 12ft/lb gun will retain 30% of its initial energy - around 3.6 ft/lb and will have dropped about 28". A Pax Defiant pellet in the same gun would retain around 38% of its energy, 4.6 ft/lb, will have dropped around 29", and be a least a yard off target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Nope it still won't go that far. All balistic programs assume no tumble and they do very quickly. I remember testing this at a club years ago due to a nearby roadway the only way it might get that far is with a small hurricane forse wind blowing it. Purely off memory i think your looking at only a couple of foot lbs at 100 yds (its certainly less than an air pistol) the calcs i did for my 30ft lb .22 rapid gave it a max fall out at 400 yds with less than 1 ft lb on return - assuming the pellet remained face forwards which it wont in a million years. Safety first though unless shooting up into trees a backstop is always appropriate Ah, damn you and your real world tests..... Can't argue with that as I've never actually tested. Though an over estimation is always better than under, well in this case anyway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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