scrob Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Hi guys, I have an AYA No.2 with 28" barrels and a normal chamber (non magnum). I don't do a lot of shooting, just sometimes for pigeons and sometimes for clays. However on my farm we have substantial drainage dykes that attract a few mallard which I wouldn't mind having a crack at. I currently lease the shooting rights to a club and would be interested in joining them on their next day out. I understand that I need to use steel shot - can you tell me whether this will be ok in my little AYA? I have read online that steel shot can be a bit hard for some guns. If my gun is suitable, would a no.4 cartridge be suitable? Thanks Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 you will have to use non toxic shot, this does not mean you will have to use steel a few other options bismuth, ok in any gun through any choke 32gram 5 s is what i use and it does the job for me or you could get some tungsten, same again, any gun any choke it will be ok More expensive than steel but better stopping power if your AYA is in good condition (inside barrels) and choked less than half you will be ok putting a few steel cartridges through it pellets no bigger than number 4 should be fine i would suggest 32g 4s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrob Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 As far as I know the gun is choked 1/4 and 1/2. It is a fresh gun in great condition. I don't mind the cost of cartridges as I won't be buying many of them, so the other non toxics like tungsten or bismuth etc wouldn't put me off. Maybe I'll look for tungsten if my shop has any and failing that I'll go steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 As far as I know the gun is choked 1/4 and 1/2. It is a fresh gun in great condition. I don't mind the cost of cartridges as I won't be buying many of them, so the other non toxics like tungsten or bismuth etc wouldn't put me off. Maybe I'll look for tungsten if my shop has any and failing that I'll go steel. See if you can get hold of some of these. They're made specifically for older, fixed choke guns. http://www.hevishot.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Remember that you have a statutory ban on shooting wildfowl and waders at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Hi guys, I have an AYA No.2 with 28" barrels and a normal chamber (non magnum). I don't do a lot of shooting, just sometimes for pigeons and sometimes for clays. However on my farm we have substantial drainage dykes that attract a few mallard which I wouldn't mind having a crack at. I currently lease the shooting rights to a club and would be interested in joining them on their next day out. I understand that I need to use steel shot - can you tell me whether this will be ok in my little AYA? I have read online that steel shot can be a bit hard for some guns. If my gun is suitable, would a no.4 cartridge be suitable? Thanks Rob bismuth ot tungsten matrix in a 5 or 4 would be ideal and safe. both are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrob Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) Just rang around and only one local shop can get me a non steel non shot, they are offering me Bismuth 32g at £30 for a box of 25, seems extortionate? Edited December 20, 2010 by scrob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 thats the going rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 My advice is RC Sipe 32g 4/5's. Excellent shell! But in England and Wales you are supposed to use non lead. Eley Maximum Bismuth 34g 4's are good, but Hevishot 31g 5's take some beating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Just rang around and only one local shop can get me a non steel non shot, they are offering me Bismuth 32g at £30 for a box of 25, seems extortionate? i pay £21 for 25 bismuth 32g 5s they are pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrob Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 i pay £21 for 25 bismuth 32g 5s they are pricey £21 is not as bad as £30! Looks like short supply in my area is keeping the price up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 £21 is not as bad as £30! Looks like short supply in my area is keeping the price up.. I was given a box of 32gram 5s ITM, but I wont be replacing them when they're gone. Scary to think that each time I empty a magazine it's nearly a fiver gone. Esp if I don't hit anything with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I was given a box of 32gram 5s ITM, but I wont be replacing them when they're gone. Scary to think that each time I empty a magazine it's nearly a fiver gone. Esp if I don't hit anything with them thats why i load steel, you could almost break even when you reload your own steel. if you intend to reload steel, give me a yell, its not totally different from lead, but stick to the proper recipes and you`ll do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 thats why i load steel, you could almost break even when you reload your own steel. if you intend to reload steel, give me a yell, its not totally different from lead, but stick to the proper recipes and you`ll do fine. To be honest it's only one small stretch of river that I have access to that I would use them on, and if anything else flies past that doesn't need non tox it's just hard luck for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 when i first went out with bismuth shells, i had several shots (£7) and they fractured / dusted out the barrel. they were a waste of money, thats why i`ve gone to steel. i should have bagged a few things but the ammo just wasnt up to it. i personally hate bismuth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IEH Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I've been using Bismuth for a few years now with mixed results. In the main I'm shooting relatively close range flighted duck so don't have the problems faced by foreshore 'fowlers but I wasn't happy with the 32g loads, they brought them down but didn't kill cleanly. After some experimentation with different loads and shot sizes I've been using Eley Alphamax 4's for a while now and am happy that they will do their bit if I do mine. Yes, they're expensive but given the few that I use they're worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 i`d be happy, saying shoot impact tungsten matrix. they are expensive, but they are supposed to be safe in older guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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