Metric Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 hi all more questions am afraid.after reading my last post i am very interested in finding out about making my own shot. I am not only interested in this for saving money but the enjoyment of production more of the cartridge as posible.I have watched videos on the net but where is the best place to buy a shot making machine or is it an easy task to make a machine your self.Any advice will be welcome.cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) yes you can buy shot makers but there not cheep but the idea is quite simple but takes alot of tinkering to get right if you look for sitsinhedges and floting chamber there the masters and helped me to get to grips with mine my first go now mark 2 Edited December 30, 2010 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metric Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 cheers fruitloop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 hi all more questions am afraid.after reading my last post i am very interested in finding out about making my own shot. I am not only interested in this for saving money but the enjoyment of production more of the cartridge as posible.I have watched videos on the net but where is the best place to buy a shot making machine or is it an easy task to make a machine your self.Any advice will be welcome.cheers Ian A good start is to fill in your profile so other forum members who might be able to help have an idea of who you are and where you are based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 A good start is to fill in your profile so other forum members who might be able to help have an idea of who you are and where you are based No!!!!They'll pinch all your lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 No!!!!They'll pinch all your lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyred Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 made my own shot in 70s piece of angle iron blanked of each end and drilled in the v with small holes put a rod of one end so angle iron is about 3 foot above bucket of water .get angle iron hot so molten lead does not stick tip in v of angle. vary hight from water till lead droplets form round in water. mix old car tyre lead weights to make lead harder you can get them from tyre repaires for a drink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliengravy Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I'm thinking I'm going to have to have a go at this instead of buying the lead in! I have lots of scrap lead lying around!! A very interesting read! Does anyone know the relevant hole sizes for the relevant shot size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) 0.45mm gives you about 6/7 depending on lead type temp and depth in pan Edited January 3, 2011 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 0.45mm gives you about 6/7 depending on lead type temp and depth in pan As above, more lead in pan runs faster/smaller but could turn to string. You will have good days and bad days, on a good day run as much as you can, on a bad day pack it in. Warmer the weather the better no wind better still. The main thing is your lead, forget the wheel wieghts as most are now Zink, dont mix with you good lead as it will cause problems. MElt your lead, mix a bit of beeswax in and stir, candle wax works also and helps clean your lead so not blocking your droppers. Watch you coolant temperature, as it gets hot your shot will deteriate. Wear a set of goggles and gloves, molten lead BURNS. JOHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 The above is about right, I bought a Shotmaster Shotmaker off the well known auction site, at first I though I had bought a pup. But then reading as much as I could find and a bit of help from people on here it is great. I have only made about 50 kilos of shot so far but it has saved me a fortune. The real key I have found is the preparation of the lead. Using the beeswax as described above and making ingots (I use a bun tin) Once you have a load of ingots then the shot making is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 i to have only made about 50/60kg up to yet first time enderd up remelting 10kg as it made a funny noise when shot got some right funny looks at the clay ground made the cast alli pan and s/s drippers the alli casting was easier than the drilling of the .45mm holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Yes, drilling the drippers a beggar, if you are shooting 7/8/9 for clays a set of double drippers from MAGMA ENGINEERING, about 70 Dollars a set of 7 but havnt had any for a long time so dont know the price as now. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) s/s m8 bolts £2 for 10. 3*0.45mm drill bits £9. 2 hours of patients price less Edited January 4, 2011 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 or 3* 0.6 mig tips £2.50 as shown in mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 OR. Forget the drippers. Make pan out of steel sheet, about 20 guage, drill holes in bottom front and weld run plate behind them. Secure with 3 threaded rods to coolant can, one iether side at front, one middle back. Washer welded to dropper to slot over said rods with nut below this gives you fine adjusting for drop and angle. It works well and less piddling about cleaning droppers. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 OR. Forget the drippers. Make pan out of steel sheet, about 20 guage, drill holes in bottom front and weld run plate behind them. Secure with 3 threaded rods to coolant can, one iether side at front, one middle back. Washer welded to dropper to slot over said rods with nut below this gives you fine adjusting for drop and angle. It works well and less piddling about cleaning droppers. john Show us a pic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) mmmmmmmm 20 guage 0.953mm a little thin??might bend and buckle with the heat might be ok for a short run :hmm:might be better 11g 1/8" plate Edited January 4, 2011 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 You mmmmmmmmmm it ill play it . depends how you apply the heat, blow lamp underneath to keep running temperature and lead melted in large seperate pot and ladled in. I havn/t measured the thickness of metal, just a guess, may beright but will check, But the shot is equally as good as any Littleton or Black max and i have had them both. I havnt dropped 50/60 kl i would measure my shot dropping by the ton, but it does count up after 50 years of it. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) dont get me wrong my intention to upset and the idea maybe good its just 20g is less than 1mm thick Edited January 5, 2011 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 No problem, not into the metric stuff, i didn/t make it, a friend who i shoot with did. I will measure it hopefully tomorrow and get some photo/s taken if someone can put them up, i am no good on that side of things. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Mag357 and myself had a lead run a couple of days ago we knocked out over 110 kilo of No6 shot in 4 hrs.. Today it was dried and put through the mixer then sieved to get out any scrap lumps of lead then we bottled it up and ended up with 109.5 Kilo our best run yet with less then a 1/2 kilo of scrap.. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just finishing a 96 kilo run with the new shotmaker, then that's it, honestly, this time I smell like a summer meadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 How do you guys dry your shot? I put my last lot in the oven on baking trays but for some reason her indoors didn't go a bundle on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 a big towel and under floor heating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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