jasper3 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Well at long last ive made my Mind up on the 1st Rimfire, after speaking to so many shooters and getting a 50/50 result on answers, I wanted to make sure I got the right weapon for me (thanks to everyone who put thier input in) I also had a great talk with the FEO Ive chosen the WR WH60J 17HMR, I really do like this rifle One thing I looked at was price for Ammo..The 17hmr worked out at £15 for 50 compared to £5 for the 22LR but I spend more than £15 a day on bait when fishing...and still catch nought My permissions are small hilly fields of about 7-10 acre's each in which i have 15, they are all surrounded by other fields and have been FAC cleared my main quarry will be rabits of which there are plenty... I know the 17HMR will need more cleaning and looking after than a 22LR, but ! so be it, really looking forward to writing some shooting reports. Once again, thanks to all those kind people that gave their advice, some great points were made for both calibers jasp Edited January 10, 2011 by jasper3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Well at long last ive made my Mind up on the 1st Rimfire, after speaking to so many shooters and getting a 50/50 result on answers, I wanted to make sure I got the right weapon for me (thanks to everyone who put thier input in) I also had a great talk with the FEO Ive chosen the WR WH60J 17HMR, I really do like this rifle One thing I looked at was price for Ammo..The 17hmr worked out at £15 for 50 compared to £5 for the 22LR but I spend more than £15 a day on bait when fishing...and still catch nought My permissions are small hilly fields of about 7-10 acre's each in wich i have 15, they are all surrounded by other fields and have been FAC cleared my main quarry will be rabits of wich there are plenty... I know the 17HMR will need more cleaning and looking after than a 22LR, but ! so be it, really looking forward to writing some shooting reports. Once again, thanks to all those kind people that gave their advice, some great points were made for both calibers jasp A wise choice, i have just filled my .17HMR slot and do not regret it at all! its an amazing little calibre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's a punchy little round indeed. The only gripe I have is that it strays if there's a breeze over a range of 100m. Most shots taken by me with the HMR were around or under that range anyway, so was a largely irrelevant issue. Just bear in mind that the gun might not shoot "sweet" straight out of the box. Put a few hundred rounds through it before expecting it to be at its best. Barrels can be funny beggars after cleaning, too. I cleaned only every 100 rounds or so, or when accuracy dropped. After cleaning, i'd put 2 or 3 plinking rounds through it to get it up to standard again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Thanks lads, i should'nt have much trouble with windage, as each and every field has a good size hedgerow..that was one of the things that swayed my descission, thats great advice about the cleaning, much apprecated, I hav'nt seen many of the rabits in the middle of the fields, they normally stay within 10 mts of the hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 wind is only an issue if you compare it with centrefires. If you compare it to a .22LR it drifts less and all you do is adjust your ranges according to the wind. When lamping I'll rarely account for wind when most shots are sub 100 yards. If sitting out in daylight then occasionally I will but only if shooting much over that which is pretty rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Have to say a 17HMR wouldn't have been my choice. Not with its ammunitions at its current prices and set to rise again and again and again. .22lr with good HV ammunition would mean you'd only have to shave 15-20m or so off your HMR's max distances, but would save yourself a some fortune on ammo costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 i'd be very happy with the HW in .17hmr - cracking rifle, cracking calibre - it's the workhorse of my armoury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 i'd be very happy with the HW in .17hmr - cracking rifle, cracking calibre - it's the workhorse of my armoury How many rounds a week do you get thru for it to be a workhorse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Thankyou lads..i notice they do a 22lr and 222 in the same model after seeing the workmanship with the HW100 Im hooked on WR now Edited January 11, 2011 by jasper3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Have to say a 17HMR wouldn't have been my choice. Not with its ammunitions at its current prices and set to rise again and again and again. .22lr with good HV ammunition would mean you'd only have to shave 15-20m or so off your HMR's max distances, but would save yourself a some fortune on ammo costs. to be honest kenyan.... I spend £20 on bait for a days fishing..with my shooting I will only shoot what i would put on the table for me and a few friends... I have nothing against people who shoot 50 rabits a day.. but for me 4-6 would be ample so price really wouldn't bother me jasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 ... I have nothing against people who shoot 50 rabits a day.. but for me 4-6 would be ample so price really wouldn't bother me jasp +1 As I always skin/soak/joint/butcher mine when I get home, 6-8 is enough for me from a trip. Even 2 or 3 usually means I've enjoyed myself and put some meat in the freezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 to be honest kenyan.... I spend £20 on bait for a days fishing..with my shooting I will only shoot what i would put on the table for me and a few friends... I have nothing against people who shoot 50 rabits a day.. but for me 4-6 would be ample so price really wouldn't bother me jasp You're fortunate to be able to get away with just shooting 4 or 5. Our lot always want to see a dramatic reduction in numbers in as short as time period as possible. Hence being out 3 times week and shooting 60-100 a night, when we have to. I don't think I have ever had the luxury of just shooting rabbits for the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 You're fortunate to be able to get away with just shooting 4 or 5. Our lot always want to see a dramatic reduction in numbers in as short as time period as possible. Hence being out 3 times week and shooting 60-100 a night, when we have to. I don't think I have ever had the luxury of just shooting rabbits for the pot. 60-100 a night! Where are you New Zealand? thats more like Rabbit-acide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well they do bred like rabbits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 60-100 a night! Where are you New Zealand? thats more like Rabbit-acide! If you are shooting that many per night it shouldnt take long for the numbers to fall dramatically, whilst you will not get rid of them a hundred per night will only last for a short period of time.....otherwise there would be no point in shooting them !!! farms I shoot over have dropped from 100 plus a night to twenty after two years shooting doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 If you are shooting that many per night it shouldnt take long for the numbers to fall dramatically, whilst you will not get rid of them a hundred per night will only last for a short period of time.....otherwise there would be no point in shooting them !!! farms I shoot over have dropped from 100 plus a night to twenty after two years shooting doc Yep, if i took 20 a night at certain permissions it would wipe out the sport! and as much as we are doing a job controlling pests it is still a sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyatt Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thankyou lads..i notice they do a 22lr and 222 in the same model after seeing the workmanship with the HW100 Im hooked on WR now Colleague of mine has all 3, lovely weapons! I'm certainly going to be looking at these if I apply for my FAC and can afford them. He has the same scope on each, saves re-zeroing each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Yep, if i took 20 a night at certain permissions it would wipe out the sport! and as much as we are doing a job controlling pests it is still a sport! +1 At one of the new permissions I got 2 years ago, 1st year nailed a few hundred bunnies, 2nd year, less than 100. Now I have to take a slight farming stance, apart from in the zero tolerance areas, I have to go easy or risk having almost nowt to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Yep, if i took 20 a night at certain permissions it would wipe out the sport! and as much as we are doing a job controlling pests it is still a sport! Thats the difference between the professional and the amateur. For me its a job, a job that's great fun but a job never the less. I'm not knocking those that only ever take a few for the pot. Its like most things. If you want the thing doing right, doing quick, and doing well get a professional in to do it. I'll fetch my coat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thats the difference between the professional and the amateur. For me its a job, a job that's great fun but a job never the less. I'm not knocking those that only ever take a few for the pot. Its like most things. If you want the thing doing right, doing quick, and doing well get a professional in to do it. I'll fetch my coat! yup fetch your coat and hat and do what you should have done a long time ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Shooting all the rabbits on your "Job" doesn't make you a professional! Lol Obviously not wanting repeat business! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 yup fetch your coat and hat and do what you should have done a long time ago If by that you mean do a proper job. I've been doing that for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Shooting all the rabbits on your "Job" doesn't make you a professional! Lol Obviously not wanting repeat business! :-) FYI and to help with your obvious confusion. Profession. Noun: An occupation in which one has a professed expertise in a particular area; A job, paid employment, usually requiring a high level of skill or training. I have no need to worry about repeat business. Rabbits can be relied upon to sort that out for themselves. You just have to be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Noun: An occupation in which one has a professed expertise in a particular area; A job, paid employment, usually requiring a high level of skill or training. Professed also comes under "alleged; pretended." i'm sure there are plenty of us Professed professionals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Not another one eh Doc so if you do it professionally Kenyan with those numbers you should well know the game dealer will pay you far more than the cost of an HMR round per rabbit provided you can head shoot them. I know a fair few keepers use HMR's where the situation dictates and bearing in mind the estates get the vat back on them the cost isn't an issue especially when you buy by the 1000, by the time you're too tight to pay for them you'd best gve up using a shotgun as the cost per bang is surprisingly similar but your kill ratio will be better with the HMR. As for HV's being better at rabbit control pull the other one it removes any of the plus points of the LR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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