semiautolee Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 just something different than shooting posts and arguments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Not at the moment. They could put extra taxes on non-organic fertilizers or subsidies for organic growers, They won't spend any money on the latter so if they did anything it would be the former, which would increase the cost of the majority of our food. I would like to see more organic food available but it will probably be the market and not govenment that decides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 i agree with you falcon, good point mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyatt Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 No, intensive farming is going to become more important as years go on. They should do more to reduce food miles and get food grown at home (in the UK) again. Organic is great but doesn't yield (sp?) enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Despite the smoke screen of organic farming there is no such thing there still are alound to use a small amount of chemicals to spray studborn weeds in crops FACT. Like poppies I sprayed a field last year in the dark to avoid public knowing. Cheers OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Like poppies I sprayed a field last year in the dark to avoid public knowing. Cheers OTH good one OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes - but at the end of the day it's not about farmers, it's about consumers and what they have in their pocket to spend. AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I have worked in the food/agriculture industries for nigh on 25 years. Every year I have been told that organic is the next big thing, and it aint happened yet. If anything we are heading for more intensive farming and GM - vital if we are to feed the world. 2nd and 3rd world country diets are beoming more sophisticated and demand is exponential. Organic food is a marketing fad designed to lure in the middle class shopper and get them to pay more for a less efficient product with no real benefits. If that's what you want, then fine, and good luck to the farmer /retailer that makes a buck out of it. But should it be subsidised by the taxpayer...No! PS if you think that the Soil Association is dedicated to serving the health of the nation...take a look at their accounts and the salary of their top execs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenjammer Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Good post Diceman. Food production in the quantities to feed all the world is a big problem now and natural disasters don't help, nor drought or flood. We need methods that increase food production yields rather than daintily tended carrots etc mumbled to with sweet nothings to be sold to the minority. The other option is intensive and drastic population reductions by birth control and death control - sorry but it has to be said. 80 yrs ago there were 2 billion on the planet and now there are 6 billion + If you want organic then grow your own as I do and stop paving over your gardens etc. Helps keep obesity at bay too does a bit of exercise (he says lolled in front of the computer ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Too much "organic" and "free range" labelled foodstuff is counterfeit and does not meet the full criteria. Its just vastly overpriced products for the extremely gullible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 You can theoreticaly have high yeild organic via GM seed stocks but if you eat it the scary GM monster will eat your children at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king cj Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 to the ops original question definatly no, the gov should be as small and do as few things as possable! some things the gov has to do (defence, police etc...) but most things can be done cheaper and better if they arnt involved. since we are on agriculture take the subsidy system, out of the tax we pay to gov, some gets spent of admin here, then europe(where some of it is sent to other countries cause we are a major contributer), then more of it is spent on admin here before being sent out to farmers. wouldnt it be better value for money just to pay a little more for food in the shop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 the scary GM monster will eat your children at night. is this the one that lives with the peadophile at the end of your street and those scary foreign blokes who are after your job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 no dont need to promote organic farming, need to stop GM and farmers putting roids in animals and poison on crops that cause cancer in humans. There will be a major world wide food crisis soon, the government would be best to encourage people to breed less, not rape the land for more food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 no dont need to promote organic farming, need to stop GM On the contrary, GM is the main thing that will get us out of this mess!and farmers putting roids in animals already banned for well over 20 years and poison on crops that cause cancer in humans. could you link to some real scientific evidence of this? (ie not a daily mail article!) There will be a major world wide food crisis soon, see GM comment above! the government would be best to encourage people to breed less, better to start with the catholic church before the government! not rape the land for more food. how exactly are we "raping" the land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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