kdubya Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) i`m not disagreeing with you on that, its more comfortable with higher payloads, it keeps the pressure up. it is best when used for 30g and 32g loads. i`ve seen some loads for 36-40 grams with this stuff. thats because A1 is for magnum loads, it burns slower, try it on light loads and you will see unburnt powder in your barrels. KW Edited February 13, 2011 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 A1 isnt for magnum loads, 32g isnt a magnum load, 34g isnt a magnum load, 36g isnt a magnum load, 38g isnt a magnum load, 40g isnt a magnum load, 42g isnt a magnum load, it is called a mini mag though. A0 is for the latter loads, but there are better powders, NS tecna is an example of a better powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 A1 isnt for magnum loads, 32g isnt a magnum load, 34g isnt a magnum load, 36g isnt a magnum load, 38g isnt a magnum load, 40g isnt a magnum load, 42g isnt a magnum load, it is called a mini mag though. A0 is for the latter loads, but there are better powders, NS tecna is an example of a better powder. oops your right the tub I tried was A0 mind is going thought it was A1, I used to use red dot but found vectan AS gives me just about the same load but at about half the price! KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) Where are you all getting these AS recipes from? Ive got loads of AS sat here i use for subs, and i cant find any recipes on the bloomin stuff!! Some links or PMS would be super appreciated!! http://www.nobelsport.it/public/pages/ENG/schedapol.asp?ProdottoID=557&FamigliaID=0 http://www.nobelsport.fr/nobelsport/fr/schedules/vec_as.html Edited February 13, 2011 by sitsinhedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 No point, they're tested recipes and that wont tell me the velocity Tested? Can you identify the batch or powder lot? I've tested some of these 'proven' recipes and they are way out! Mind you don't blow yerself up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Tested? Can you identify the batch or powder lot? I've tested some of these 'proven' recipes and they are way out! Mind you don't blow yerself up! In that case the whole basis for reloading is flawed and none of us should have access to anything. Or maybe you're just being awkward because it hasn't stopped you quoting said recipes yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) hi fc this may be a daft question but what is a lead crusher!? A lead crusher gun (mine is proofed to 1200kg) is a mounted barrel and sturdy breech that shows chamber-pressure. It has a 'yoke' and piston fitted one inch from the breech face. A loaded cartridge is placed in a sleeve and drilled one inch above the head. The shell is removed from the sleeve and loaded into the gun. The hole is there to allow the gases to act directly on a piston. A solid lead cylinder or 'crusher' is placed on top of the piston and the 'anvil' is screwed down to secure it. When the gun is fired, the gas exerts pressure on the piston and it crushes the lead cylinder. The cylinder, which started its life at exactly half an inch, has now been shortened by the force. The cylinder is now measured with a micrometer to measure its new length. This length is looked up in a printed table and alongside each value is the CHAMBER-PRESSURE, in TONS PER SQUARE INCH for that cartridge. http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2011/01/testing-firearms-measuring-chamber.html This gun, used with a reliable chronograph, is ideal to evaluate your homeloads. And at least ten cartridges each time! Relying on printed 'recipes' (I hate that word) is not enough. Powder lots vary; example, in my TRADE Alliant data, there is a powder called 'RED DOT'. In a 500g tub, (for homeloaders) it is fairly idiot-proof. BUT, would you know the difference in doses for Red Dot 15, Red Dot 20, Red Dot 50, 60 or 80? All of these look the same. The first recommends 17 grains, but for the other variants, the doses are 21, 20, 22, 22, 22 for the same weight of shot. Imagine a novice loader, increasing the charge because he can't get the 'proven' velocity and doing this WITHOUT checking chamber pressure. Manufacturers doses are suggested starting points and not gospel. Edited February 13, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) ....today, a complete stranger handed me a heavy bag of bits; he had discovered them during a house clearance. He would not accept anything in return. Contents? Two unopened 1lb tins of Nobel 80 powder, 500 3/8" Kleena fibre wads, 500 1/11" card wads and a container of No. 5 lead shot. NICE! Edited February 13, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliengravy Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 http://www.nobelsport.it/public/pages/ENG/schedapol.asp?ProdottoID=557&FamigliaID=0 http://www.nobelsport.fr/nobelsport/fr/schedules/vec_as.html Thanks for them buddy. What wads do they need though? The first link doesn't even mention a wad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for them buddy. What wads do they need though? The first link doesn't even mention a wad?? Take care! These are NOT gospel. They're just starting points for the trade. Manufacturers use all sorts of wads and have the equipment for TESTING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 You reloading guys! One day I may have a clue what your on about! I doubt it mind! Shippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Shippy, it ain't Rocket Science'. However, some idiots dice with death! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Shippy, it ain't Rocket Science'. However, some idiots dice with death! You could have fooled me. I think I would need more than a mentor! Do do people really mess it up that often (I expect once is enough) and if so is it because they push the limits or coc£ it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) You could have fooled me. I think I would need more than a mentor! Do do people really mess it up that often (I expect once is enough) and if so is it because they push the limits or coc£ it up? They do! Edited February 13, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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