Bowen20 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Hi guys just after a bit of info from you wise old owls. Ok helped a friend about 3 weeks ago fill out his variation for a .223 his land is cleared for up to and including a .308. Firstly they got intouch with him and said that the permission form he had submitted only had VERMIN listed on it and he's wanting the .223 for fox so ok went back to the land owner and printed a new permission slip off with FOX clearly stated on it and pests. La d owner was ok about it. So posted that off n waited n waited. Finally he phoned me up and hehad got it back. And said it didnt have a .223 moderator on it even thow we both saw every word on the form and below the .223 rifle request was the "WITH MODERATOR". So my mate phoned them up and got a no there was no request for a moderator on the variation even thow like I said we both saw it clearly stated on the form and that is what I always put on my variations and have always got a moderator applied. Now they want another variation and £26 quid and so on. I wish I would of photocopied it all. And from now on I think I'm going to copy everything. Would they give him copies if he asked? Anyone else had this kind of trouble? Thanks in advance guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Hi guys just after a bit of info from you wise old owls. Ok helped a friend about 3 weeks ago fill out his variation for a .223 his land is cleared for up to and including a .308. Firstly they got intouch with him and said that the permission form he had submitted only had VERMIN listed on it and he's wanting the .223 for fox so ok went back to the land owner and printed a new permission slip off with FOX clearly stated on it and pests. La d owner was ok about it. So posted that off n waited n waited. Finally he phoned me up and hehad got it back. And said it didnt have a .223 moderator on it even thow we both saw every word on the form and below the .223 rifle request was the "WITH MODERATOR". So my mate phoned them up and got a no there was no request for a moderator on the variation even thow like I said we both saw it clearly stated on the form and that is what I always put on my variations and have always got a moderator applied. Now they want another variation and £26 quid and so on. I wish I would of photocopied it all. And from now on I think I'm going to copy everything. Would they give him copies if he asked? Anyone else had this kind of trouble? Thanks in advance guys. I have lots of issues with the FEO etc, always copy everything! Edited March 8, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I know I know i should of known better. Just seems like now he doesnt have a leg to stand on because we didn't make any copies. I think it's just shocking and disgusting and I know that they are very busy and mistakes genuinely happen but for them to not even be bothered and want to rectify this mistake even thow they have the original variation and he paid for it to top it off!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 yes allways copy and keep safe for ever you just never no mate had same kind of thing when he bought a mod of a bloke they told him cause it was taged too a .223 he could not just buy it and put it on a 22.250 god nows they have more rules than school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Phone up and ask for a copy. You will soon find out what it said by their response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Exactly what I said thanks for that dirty Harry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 If they wont give you a copy, make a Subject access request under the data protection act. Costs £10 but they are legally obliged to let you have everything they have on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I was thinking of that too but I dismissed it because I didn't think it would show up such things as variations and the like I just thought it told you like name address and offences if any? Hmm that's worth a think like cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I know that this is being a bit pedantic but to write down ".223 rifle with moderator" is not correct. A moderator is a separate item and as such needs to be requested on a separate line on the form as it requires it's own specific "slot". Remember that some rifles come with a moderated barrel and as such do not require a slot for the moderator, you may find that this is what the clerk presumed. By not completing the form to the letter I guess the clerk in the office is being a little acquired with you. Why not try and speak with the licensing manager to reach an accommodation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I guess so and I know your right but were not robots and have got a brain and common sense if it says with moderator I think that the person would be wanting a moderator with it just because it doesn't say .223 moderator then I think that's just a bit stupid and as said before on my variations I've always put with moderator on the line below and always got them and it's the same firearms licensing department and the work is done by the same people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Bowen, a subject access request throws up everything, all applications, correspondance, only sensitive information, ie, stuff with other peoples info on might be restricted and only if they object to such being released. It will oblige them to release copies of applications made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 101 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Hi Did you also apply for zeroing as a condition , because without it your going to have problems when you need to know how the rifle is performing , load testing ,new scope etc . Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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