digger Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 in this weeks shooting times is a picture of a stag that has been caught by hounds. i will fight tooth and nail to defend our right to hunt but what a bad choice of photo,it was in france but this has set us back way too far,the antis will love it :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Tough on the Anti's. It was a good pic, showing how the french people crowd round and take photo's instead of shying away from it. It may not be your cup of tea and indeed I have never witnessed a deer being brought down by dogs but it is not a world away from a rabbit being bought down by a dog or to some extent a rabbit being hunted by a ferret. The Anti's will hate us whatever we do or say, sod em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I dont know if i'm putting my foot in it be writing this because i support the hunting of foxs with dogs. But i think hunting deer with dogs is a little off putting, simply becuase of the size the deer are to the dog that chases it. Foxs that get chased by the hounds are considerably smaller in size and hence forth get dispatched rather quickly. But i'v seen videos of Stag hunting with dogs and have come to the conclusion that some animals are to be hunted with dogs and some are to be shot. And i reckon that a deer is way to big a beast to kill cleanly with dogs therefore should be shot. Ps I'm not joining the ANTI HUNTING!, just having an honest oppinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Whatever we say or do the antis will always try to interfere in that. They will not stop so sod ‘em. Time we had more in the media, mags and TV about hunting. Not just what we do but also what nature does. All these so-called ‘nature’ programmes on TV have stopped showing the ‘kill’. Bring back the original ‘Survival’ programmes produced by Colin Willock & Anglia TV and show things like they really are. There have been some notable exceptions of late; namely some of the celeb chefs but it’s still not raw enough, there’s still the ‘bambi’ effect. B***** Walt Disney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Whether we like it or not guys, we have to take some account of what the majority of what Joe Public think. Endless surveys have shown that Joe can sleep easy at night with rats being killed in as many ways that you can think of - as long as it is quick. AND RATS ARE CLEARLY VERMIN. A smaller number of Joes will accept that killing foxes by shooting is entirely acceptable (as it is a quick death), but worry somewhat about foxes being killed by hounds. I have seen foxes killed by hounds, and it is quick, but as Joe has not, he doesn't really believe it. Again, foxes are probably accepted as being vermin by most Joes, even though they see films of nice cuddly fox cubs. No one can tell me that killing a stag with hounds is a quick death. Controlling the deer numbers by shooting is acceptable to Joe, and so it is allowed with very few qualms on their part. Also, deer are not vermin as perceived by Joe. We cannot piddle into the wind guys. There are a lot more Joes out there than there are hunters like you and me. If we upset Joe too much (so they cannot sleep at night), then we are onto a loser with a one way street ending. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 i had the issue, i thought it was a good pic and a very good artical, if your read it propaly you would of understood the stag was not eaten alive it was chased into the water and the huntsmun killed it by using a lance in the heart when he was beside the stag, then the was the stag was fed to the dogs, once dead, as far as im concerend it was a very good article and we shouldnt be ashamed by the sport we do ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natures_son Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Nothing wrong with hunting deer with proper deer dogs such as a nice salukix grey with maybe a tad of bull blood in it. The death is nearly always quick and painless if the dogs and owner know what they are doing. At the End of the day its each to their own. Keep walking the walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 I thought on the whole, it was a good article, which illustrated well the deep sense of history and respect with which the sport is viewed over there. I saw the picutre in question and was at first a bit concerned as it seemed to show quite a bit of damage to the stags hind quarters. When I read the article though, it became apparent that it was in fact the head and skin of the stag, so the "damage" was probably just a flap of skin showing. The meat of the stag was reserved fo human consumption. The dogs, according to the article got the offal, which is traditional according to the article. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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