djgeoff Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 your advise please, i dont whana pay meggar bucks for top range binoculars, i just want a reasonable pair that would do me for spotting pigeon in trees etc say 400 yrds or more. i have been looking at some on flea bay £19.99 : Pentacon Bird Watcher 10x50 binoculars Top-quality Bk-7 optics and solid, reliable mechanics make this Pentacon Bird Watcher binocular from Praktica a stunning bargain - but we have limited quantities and they won't last! At the time of listing, the Argos price of this binocular is £39.99 inc delivery. info as below These binos are great for bird and wildlife watching and general use. As the name suggests, the Bird Watcher is an ideal binocular for wild-life and bird watching and is a good all-round general use binocular - all prisms are super clear Bk-7 glass with all glass surfaces fully anti-reflection coated. The rugged rubber-armoured cast-alloy metal body has a comfortable high-quality feel and features a tripod-fitting bush Supplied with soft padded carry case, neck strap, and dust caps. 10 year manufacturer's warranty included! Specification: Fully-coated Bk-7 optics. Magnification: x10 Rubber-armoured finish. Size (H)19, (W)6.5, (D)18.5cm. Weight 850g. Field of view: 99m at 1000m This is a great rubber-armoured bino, would these do me as i dont understand the specs, if they are no good, what specs should i look for? In advance thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 check out www. scopesnskies.com good binos at reasonable price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 check out www. scopesnskies.com good binos at reasonable price thanks but what do i need to look for spec and construction wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 check this site www.bestbinocularsreview.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 You can't buy binoculars off the internet without having a look through a pair. You can always be cheeky and go into a gun/camera shop have a good look and then buy online! This is once case where you really do get what you pay for. I have wasted a lot of money over the years buying a number of pairs in the £10-50 bracket and was never impressed. Decided I would shell out a couple of hundred quid on a decent pair. Went to local RFD and looked through some Leupold, Steiner, Hawke etc. The Minox for £200 were as good as the £400/500 Leupold and Steiner. Not quite as good as Swaro, Zeiss but they don't need upgrading for a very long time. I am highly impressed. The step up from even the better quality Hawke optics was staggering. Don't go higher than 10X mag for hand held as the image will shake. If you expect to carry them then 7 or 8 X 42 is common. The bigger lenses weigh more, but gather more light. Look for waterproof, rubber armour and nitrogen filled. Don't waste your money on cheap ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 You will give yourself one hell of a headache looking through cheap binos for any sustained periods. As previously mentioned, it really is a case of you get what you pay for. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 You can't buy binoculars off the internet without having a look through a pair. You can always be cheeky and go into a gun/camera shop have a good look and then buy online! This is once case where you really do get what you pay for. I have wasted a lot of money over the years buying a number of pairs in the £10-50 bracket and was never impressed. Decided I would shell out a couple of hundred quid on a decent pair. Went to local RFD and looked through some Leupold, Steiner, Hawke etc. The Minox for £200 were as good as the £400/500 Leupold and Steiner. Not quite as good as Swaro, Zeiss but they don't need upgrading for a very long time. I am highly impressed. The step up from even the better quality Hawke optics was staggering. Don't go higher than 10X mag for hand held as the image will shake. If you expect to carry them then 7 or 8 X 42 is common. The bigger lenses weigh more, but gather more light. Look for waterproof, rubber armour and nitrogen filled. Don't waste your money on cheap ones thanks for that, better save some pennies then, seems everything to do with this sport down to ur wellies costs in the hundreds lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) The guy has said he's looking at bins for £20 and £40, and said he doesn't want to spend a fortune. So he's told they're all rubbish if he doesn't get a second mortgage on a pair! I started a thread a couple of years back called "gun snobs"..... I'll let you figure out my thoughts where this thread is going. Mate, like you I wanted a pair of bins to do exactly what you want them for. I bought a pair from 7dayshop for £19.99 delivered and I have to say, of all the equipment I've spent my hard earned on, it has to be one of the best purchses I've made since I started this excellent sport. Buy a pair of these and try them out, you won't be disappointed. If you are you haven't broken the bank. Cos Edited March 12, 2011 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The guy has said he's looking at bins for £20 and £40, and said he doesn't want to spend a fortune. So he's told they're all rubbish if he doesn't get a second mortgage on a pair! I started a thread a couple of years back called "gun snobs"..... I'll let you figure out my thoughts where this thread is going. Mate, like you I wanted a pair of bins to do exactly what you want them for. I bought a pair from 7dayshop for £19.99 delivered and I have to say, of all the equipment I've spent my hard earned on, it has to be one of the best purchses I've made since I started this excellent sport. Buy a pair of these and try them out, you won't be disappointed. If you are you haven't broken the bank. Cos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 After all that speech they haven't got the ones I bought, but here's the site, do a search on the forum for 7dayshop and you'll get some feedback and probably find the link to the ones I have bought and see what others thought too. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?PHPSESSID=&filterwords=Binoculars&x=9&y=4&filterwordsalldb=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzrat Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm with Cos, I bought some of these from 7 day shop. they have put the price up in the last few weeks but they were 19.99 delivered. nice and clear, waterproof and plenty good enough for scanning for pigeons. At that price im not worried about them rattling around the cab of my truck or getting trod on in a hide Fuzrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The guy has said he's looking at bins for £20 and £40, and said he doesn't want to spend a fortune. So he's told they're all rubbish if he doesn't get a second mortgage on a pair! I am only giving my view. Mate, like you I wanted a pair of bins to do exactly what you want them for. I bought a pair from 7dayshop for £19.99 delivered and I have to say, of all the equipment I've spent my hard earned on, it has to be one of the best purchses I've made since I started this excellent sport As it happens I took advice from this thread: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/134380-7dayshop-binos-back-in-stock/page__p__1150702__hl__7dayshop__fromsearch__1#entry1150702 and bought a pair of these: http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_8&products_id=107160&source=webgains&siteid=73669 You are quite correct - they do make things look bigger! They are OK and possibly the best pair of budget bins I have [keep these in the car] but once you have looked through a decent pair you'll realise what a difference saving the money makes. It's scary but I will have spent far more than the £200 I paid for the set of [what I call good] ones. I have now found them for £150 http://www.pennineonline.com/acatalog/Minox_Binoculars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) No worries mate, don't take my sarcasm to heart! Edited March 12, 2011 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 once again thanks for all your help, didnt want u guys to fall out, all advise is good, will look at 7dayshop in a mow, i can understand that u pay what u get for but when i am spending most of my extra cash on the ever increasing price of carts cheap ones will have to i am afraid, without the carts bins are pretty useless lol! The 7 / 8 x42s look ok i must admit, nice and small found some more to ponder on now for about 50 notes nitro filled jobbies... this is worse than selecting a gun regards geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 once again thanks for all your help, didnt want u guys to fall out, all advise is good, will look at 7dayshop in a mow, i can understand that u pay what u get for but when i am spending most of my extra cash on the ever increasing price of carts cheap ones will have to i am afraid, without the carts bins are pretty useless lol! The 7 / 8 x42s look ok i must admit, nice and small found some more to ponder on now for about 50 notes nitro filled jobbies... this is worse than selecting a gun regards geoff took the last advise and ordered the 7 day shop ones thx all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The guy has said he's looking at bins for £20 and £40, and said he doesn't want to spend a fortune. So he's told they're all rubbish if he doesn't get a second mortgage on a pair! I started a thread a couple of years back called "gun snobs"..... I'll let you figure out my thoughts where this thread is going. Mate, like you I wanted a pair of bins to do exactly what you want them for. I bought a pair from 7dayshop for £19.99 delivered and I have to say, of all the equipment I've spent my hard earned on, it has to be one of the best purchses I've made since I started this excellent sport. Buy a pair of these and try them out, you won't be disappointed. If you are you haven't broken the bank. Cos Yes, you started that thread and appeared to be a bell-end then. Glad to see some things don't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Yes, you started that thread and appeared to be a bell-end then. Glad to see some things don't change. I'm pleased you took something away from that debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 got my binos from 7day shop today, dam good, excellent for the dosh paid. thanks cos and co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 got my binos from 7day shop today, dam good, excellent for the dosh paid. thanks cos and co. How much were they then with the increase in price. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 £27.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Cheers not to much more then ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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