killer_pigeon Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 simple problem : I want to put a 1 inch pachmayr decelerator recoil pad on a shotgun with a curved stock on the end, (currently has a plastic plate) I understand the pad wont bend around the curve without wrinkling as it has a solid base. so i have been advised to square off the end of the stock first by cutting it down, then grind the pad to size and fit it on. Now i dont want to chop the stock in anyway and want to leave it as it is. is there any type of material i can use as a spacer to bend around the curve to somehow make the end of the stock square so the pad will fit flush to it. I assume it would need to be ground near the ends on the facing surface so it fits into the curve without bending. I have rang 3 gunsmiths today and they are all advising chopping the stock. any advice would be appreciated other then chopping option, apologies if i havent explained myself very well thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Cut a piece of rubber to fit female to male with a square end then Bolt straight through both parts, kind of like two interlocking spacers ? Just a thought . Edited March 21, 2011 by mpk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I sometimes buy machine tools from auctions at closing companies. A while back I bid £10 for a pallet of tooling plastic, like this; http://www.axson.com/sites/default/files/doc_produit/en/lab810-tdsi-gb.pdf but some in white, ivory, red, grey. They are polyurethane or epoxy resins with various fillers from recycled plastic to aluminium powder. They're easily cut, filed, drilled, tapped and polished. If you want to try it choose a colour and I'll post you a piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 You could grind down a vulcanite stock spacer to act as a key. A lot easier just to chop the stock though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Have you actually got the new pad yet? If so, why not push it firmly against the stock now, just to see if it wrinkles as badly as you think? You might find you have nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer_pigeon Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Have you actually got the new pad yet? If so, why not push it firmly against the stock now, just to see if it wrinkles as badly as you think? You might find you have nothing to worry about. i havent got the pad yet, only been advised by gunsmith so far that it will wrinkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) If you don't like the idea of filing something to fit, perhaps you could cast a spacer in situ using polyester resin or similar. Remember to use some kind of release agent unless you want it as a permanent fixture. If you clamped the stock butt upwards and fixed some card or plastic sheet around the curved end nice and tightly you could pour the filler in and let gravity leave you a flat end. You could angle the flat end by clamping the stock at the required angle. You might have to use some kind of grease to make sure the resin doesn't leak down the side of the butt. Edited March 22, 2011 by Catweazle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 wrinkling is not the problem i would be thinking about. does the Pachmayr pad you mention not have a hard base that you then screw the pad to? Unlikely that it will curve to the contour of the current stock without some long term pressure, preheating/bending or screw/glue. doable but you will probably need to shape the base first gunsmiths cut flat surfaces because it is easy not because it the best way to do it. I am with you, keep the profile as it is. then at least you have options in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 101 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hi Try using a kitchen plastic cutting board ,its easy to work with cut and sand to shape to fill the concave area , if you need a thicker section its easily glued with epoxy glue . Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardwoods Green Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Speak to Simon Willmore at Doveridge (he is the gunsmith). I have a friend that he fitted a Kick-EEz for on a Browning and he did it the same shape as the plate he removed without cutting the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Doesn't sound quite right to me. As you know I've got the SC100 Pachmayr on my Rotty. I've just been up and unscrewed it and whilst the plastic base is fairly stiff it bends easily to quite a curve without distorting the rubber. It stays pretty well in shape once bent, but you'll have to overbend it slightly to get it to return to the correct profile - if that makes sense. If you get really stuck I'll give you an offer on the new gun - a tenner ok? Seriously, if your smith is really insistent on grinding the end flat we could always get it to mine somehow. Cheers Paul PS: I'm sneaking a gun down to the farm on Sunday - just in case I get an hour away from the celebrations :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer_pigeon Posted March 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 cheers paul, i need to ring a few other gunsmiths including simon as recommended by Hardwoods Green or take it to your gunsmith chap as he did an excellent job on yours! i think it will probably bend but may be more difficult to fit on a curve rather then a flat edge thats why gunsmiths are probably a bit wary about it?? Take your gun sunday, i popped back yesterday for a few hours in afternoon and managed another 20 pigeons I found a dead crow in hedgerow on opposite side of field, so i think you did get that one you rear ended twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage 100 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Be careful as if it is a 1 inch Sporting pad it will have a metal insert and will not bend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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