graysclassics Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Title says it all,.. anybody tried to make a decent fullbore moderator such as the Reflex T8 for a 22-250, .243 or 308 etc? Did you have any success or should I fork out over £200 and just buy one? Has anybody used one and are they worth the money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 If you click on search at the top of the page you will get a lot of info on T8`s etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Title says it all,.. anybody tried to make a decent fullbore moderator such as the Reflex T8 for a 22-250, .243 or 308 etc? Did you have any success or should I fork out over £200 and just buy one? Has anybody used one and are they worth the money? I actually bought one .............They are worth the money as well and make alot of difference . Where it falls down though is notifying the police ............Because you don't need to have Makers details and Reg numbers you DO need a RFD sending his part of the sale document ,as you will yours off to the Police for notification of sale . On your license it 'll then state .......Make and Number UNKNOWN but acknoledge the fact that you have obtained a sound moderator in accordance with what you requested when applying . In answer to your question yes i could make one ..............I could even make one to withstand Muzzle pressures generated by the mighty Barret .50 BMG Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graysclassics Posted March 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I already have a couple of moderators, on my ticket with no serial numbers or makers names, so the beauty is I can just scrap and replace them as I want without notifying anybody. I have one for .22 LR and 22-250, but am considering replacing the 22-250 with a .243 and getting a .308 at a later date. .243 & .308 would have different size exit holes/bores ideally, so I don't want to buy two - not at £200+ each. Have got better things to do with my cash (or at least the wife has)! I will have a play and modify my .22-250 version which is absolute ****.. modified it myself for centerfire!! will mod it to reflex specs (although the diameter is a bit small) and see what happens first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 DO NOT build your own high velocity sielncer or you could end up in a world of hurt! It is possible, with the right skills, matiriel and machines (well you only need a lathe) using a strong peice of stainless or similar for strenght. But otherwise there is a large risk of the silencer blowing out, or the bullet hitting the baffles. Its like fire.. you have to treat guns with respect, and unless you have top notch knowledge of metals and gunsmithing, I seriously wouldnt suggest anyone tries it. A small airgun silencer is something else, as if the pellet hits the baffles, it wont kill you. Neither does it have to contain high pressure hot gas. Sorry to moan, I dont want to see anyone get hurt doing this. There is a reason these T8's are expensive.. and pretty solid too if you have handled one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Sorry to moan, I dont want to see anyone get hurt doing this. There is a reason these T8's are expensive.. and pretty solid too if you have handled one. A fullbore moderator like the T8 is Mass produced and extremely overpriced for what it is ,and very easy to re-produce for certain tradesman If moderators were allowed on the Global market (USA EG) they would be alot cheaper due to more competition .At the moment it's a bit of a monopoly . Don't forget the tig welder Hunter :thumbs: Right going to post a question regarding this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I already have a couple of moderators, on my ticket with no serial numbers or makers names, so the beauty is I can just scrap and replace them as I want without notifying anybody. I have one for .22 LR and 22-250, but am considering replacing the 22-250 with a .243 and getting a .308 at a later date. .243 & .308 would have different size exit holes/bores ideally, so I don't want to buy two - not at £200+ each. Have got better things to do with my cash (or at least the wife has)! I will have a play and modify my .22-250 version which is absolute ****.. modified it myself for centerfire!! will mod it to reflex specs (although the diameter is a bit small) and see what happens first. Someone i know, put a T8 made for his .243 onto his .308 and ended up blowing the moderator :blink: , Apparently, it was due to high pressure. :thumbs: By the way, i have a mother living in South Okendon, dont think you live far from their do you? I visited the place a few times, not mush country side about. Do you have to travel far for your shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Someone i know, put a T8 made for his .243 onto his .308 and ended up blowing the moderator :blink: , Apparently, it was due to high pressure. :thumbs: It was more to do with the mathematics of it. A .243 hole is smaller than .308 hole. Ergo the .308 round tried to get through a hole manufactured for a .243 bullet to go through. The high pressure was caused by the bullet impeding the gases as it slowed down when penetrating the hole at the pointy end. We've all stuck our finger over a bicycle pump and pumped it. same principle. By the way, her indoors has a T8ar on her .223 and we both have T8's on our .243's. Superb bits of kit. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Someone i know, put a T8 made for his .243 onto his .308 and ended up blowing the moderator :blink: , Apparently, it was due to high pressure. :thumbs: It was more to do with the mathematics of it. A .243 hole is smaller than .308 hole. Ergo the .308 round tried to get through a hole manufactured for a .243 bullet to go through. The high pressure was caused by the bullet impeding the gases as it slowed down when penetrating the hole at the pointy end. We've all stuck our finger over a bicycle pump and pumped it. same principle. By the way, her indoors has a T8ar on her .223 and we both have T8's on our .243's. Superb bits of kit. Dave It was bored out to except a .308. He fired a few shots threw it before, it happened after 5 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graysclassics Posted March 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Someone i know, put a T8 made for his .243 onto his .308 and ended up blowing the moderator , Apparently, it was due to high pressure. :thumbs: By the way, i have a mother living in South Okendon, dont think you live far from their do you? I visited the place a few times, not mush country side about. Do you have to travel far for your shooting? a .243 & .308 need different moderators, not surprised it blew up, the .308 would need baffle & exit holes at least 1mm larger than the .243 :*) there is a lot of countryside around south ockendon you just need to look, ockendon itself is a hovel, but north ockendon, bulphan, horndon etc is really nice and well in the sticks (that's relative of course it's not as nice as where you live - although it does have more drug dealers)! :blink: I run an estate management service for a major landowner and have shoots in Billericay, Wickford, Runwell, Brentwood etc,,, about 20 mins max from South Ockendon....still not as pretty as Ireland though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I have got a sound mod fitted to my .308 that was originally meant to be for a .243 I've never had any problems at all :thumbs: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 It was bored out to except a .308.He fired a few shots threw it before, it happened after 5 shots. May I suggest not very effectively?? :*) :blink: After 5 shots its possible that the metal of the moderator may have expanded in such a way that it mightn't have if left as manufactured. Just a thought :thumbs: dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 i recentley bought a 308 tikka with a wild cat mod, the wild cat mod is s/steel comes apart for cleaning, the t8 dosnt allowing condensation build up inside and as iam led to beleve the t8 is mildsteel and dose rust, i am also reliably informed the milatery use the t8 as a throw away unit I'm sure that in civillian use the T8 will last for several years even though it possibly does rust? There was a thread on this a while ago which got quite technical, so i stopped reading it as i didnt have a clue what they were talking about :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Someone i know, put a T8 made for his .243 onto his .308 and ended up blowing the moderator , Apparently, it was due to high pressure. :o By the way, i have a mother living in South Okendon, dont think you live far from their do you? I visited the place a few times, not mush country side about. Do you have to travel far for your shooting? a .243 & .308 need different moderators, not surprised it blew up, the .308 would need baffle & exit holes at least 1mm larger than the .243 :*) there is a lot of countryside around south ockendon you just need to look, ockendon itself is a hovel, but north ockendon, bulphan, horndon etc is really nice and well in the sticks (that's relative of course it's not as nice as where you live - although it does have more drug dealers)! I run an estate management service for a major landowner and have shoots in Billericay, Wickford, Runwell, Brentwood etc,,, about 20 mins max from South Ockendon....still not as pretty as Ireland though. Very true, cant beat Ireland for the freedom and countryside. Do you do any deer stalking? Apparently its full of fallow over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I have got a sound mod fitted to my .308 that was originally meant to be for a .243 I've never had any problems at all :o YET, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 (edited) :( i recentley bought a 308 tikka with a wild cat mod, the wild cat mod is s/steel comes apart for cleaning, the t8 dosnt allowing condensation build up inside and as iam led to beleve the t8 is mildsteel and dose rust, i am also reliably informed the milatery use the t8 as a throw away unit I'm sure that in civillian use the T8 will last for several years even though it possibly does rust? There was a thread on this a while ago which got quite technical, so i stopped reading it as i didnt have a clue what they were talking about The T8 is painted is tough heat/rust proof paint inside so itle last a long time for civillian use. The military also use different ammunition at times.. blank rounds, tracer etc wich may contain corrosive particles and eat through the baffles, along with the hotter rounds.. itle wear the T8's out fast A dear stalking rifle may fire around 10 rounds a week.. where a military .308 will be shot all day long for training etc.. Edited April 6, 2006 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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