Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) I get this plastic fouling just after the forcing cones at the front of my gun, I need a new brush as the old bristles are pretty rubbish (it's lasted a good while!). I want a Payne Galway brush but I don't know if I should get the "bore brush" or the "chamber/bore" brush? The chamber brush is slightly bigger but that could be a good thing as it rubs the bores hard! The bore brush is slightly smaller making it easier to get through the barrels. What do you guys think?? I normally settel for a normal one but these Payne Galways look good! Many thanks. Edited April 12, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I use both brushes, you may find the chamber brush won't go all the way down the barrels. They are good though for getting fr getting rid of the plastic residue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) anyone else got any ideas? Edited April 12, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I think I'll get both, Its the only way il find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I use P/G bore brushes ... tho' on the 28 its a slow job, so start off with a solvent , or a coarse patch dipped in acetone. I did have a short length of rod that would fit in a drill ... that was the quickest with a p/g + solvent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 i no i no..........dont use dirty cartridges mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) I use P/G bore brushes ... tho' on the 28 its a slow job, so start off with a solvent , or a coarse patch dipped in acetone. I did have a short length of rod that would fit in a drill ... that was the quickest with a p/g + solvent. Have you tried the Chamber brushes? Like Berettasv10 said, I might just use the chamber brush to get the main residue out around the forcing cones along with Napier gun cleaner. Then maybe try using the bore brush with napier all the way through the bores.. Patches seem to work better then kitchen roll to as alot of people advise as they are rougher, I'll add some more of them to the list too... Hmm hope it works - It’s becoming a pain in the… Edited April 12, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Anyone know of a decent website that they got theirs from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Ok .. looked in the cleaning box: in 12 I have 1x P/G chamber with a short handle & several bore brush of vavious ages. They both work ... but as said by SV10 , the chamber brush is a tighter fit... so it does the cones easily. (thinking about it -the chamber brush is left from when I had a Browning ) Yes its a pain: that's why I let the solvent do the work. Just glad that Loo roll is not as rough. Edited April 12, 2011 by seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Haha, good effort. I'll give them both a go and see. I've tried both "youngs 303" bore cleaner and napier gun cleaner, neither break down the plastic completly, does it break down completly forwith you just using a cleaner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Try Rifle cleaners like Hoppes or Parker Hale 007 .. they smell of pear drops /acetone and soften the crud. I did find aerosols that worked .. one can had a white and green label.. think the other was Brunox? but acetone was cheap n easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Oh, OK, I will do! I'll try a google search. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I had this problem with a browning 425 that my mum had been shooting! Got back from a few rounds of skeet, cleaned my Miroku with just a quick brush and some patches, Job done. Went to clean mums and it was in a right state just after the forcing cones. Took ages of soaking and scrubbing to remove, as the two guns are near identical I can only put it down to cartridges, mum shoots Eley firsts which I have heard are dirty carts and I shoot Black Golds. ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Eley firsts which I have heard are dirty carts eley firsts fibre wads are terrible dirty carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Oh, OK, I will do! I'll try a google search. Many thanks. :good: try Ebay mate just bought one for £10.20 inc p+p http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380159540475&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT Edited April 12, 2011 by malantone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 eley firsts fibre wads are terrible dirty carts Yea they'er the ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Yea they'er the ones! iv just used a couple of boxes the other day for the first time.................. after i finished cleaning my gun, you would of thought id been down the pit :yp: ........ Edited April 12, 2011 by semiautolee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 iv just used a couple of boxes the other day for the first time.................. after i finished cleaning my gun, you would of thought id been down the pit :yp: ........ Shame really , cos for the money they aint a bad cartridge for club clays. but cant be cleaning like that every time I come home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Well I didn't think comp x 28g plastic wads are that dirty. Although, saying that, I shoot 200 every time so I expect a build up of somewhat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 yeah they decently priced....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-70 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I thought I read somewhere that they were suposed to have the cleaner wad system in them?? not sure though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrodo Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Bore Snake every time. Leaves everything bright an' shiney after a few pulls. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Gordon-r gave some advice about how to remove plastic fouling to the cones by plugging the ends of the barrels and pouring boiling water down them, leave to stand and the plastic comes off easily. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 interesting stuff. Just got a silver pigeon 111 second hand and its taken ages to clean the bores just ahead of the chamber. Never had this problem with any of my guns useing fibre wads? atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 interesting stuff. Just got a silver pigeon 111 second hand and its taken ages to clean the bores just ahead of the chamber. Never had this problem with any of my guns useing fibre wads? atvb Paul. Found for some strange reason using the same make of cartridges in 2 different guns and firing a simular amount of cartridges one gun can be easily cleaned while another can be a pain in the neck. Its why I ended up buying a chamber brush as well as a normal brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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