Hollow point ammo (centre fire)

[deadeye ive]

My £7.00 a box AM Eagle 50 grn Hp,s .223 is outperforming the £20 a box V-Shok 55 grn Bt's at 150yds by some considerable margin ..........What WAS a cheap zeroing round has now become my preference .

 

Is it the lighter bullet in my set up or are Hollow points more accurate ........as I seem to re-call a conversation at my club stating this .

 

Regards

 

Ive :thumbs:

[dunganick]

the most accurate bullet is the one that shoots the best in your gun.

 

in general it comes more down to how well it suits your gun, not how inherently accurate the bullet type is.

 

However if you look at target rounds (lapua scenar) they are a copper jacketed bullet with a small hole inhe front and quite a large hollow chamber inside.

 

cant answer is HP is inherantly more accurate than BT as its difficult to say..... every gun is different

Edited March 24, 2006 by dunganick

[deadeye ive]

V-Shok 55 grn Bt's

I should've been more specific ...........the above are Ballistic tip

 

Ive

[dunganick]

er, Hollow points and Boat tails are totally different nick.

yes, but surely they have a not disimilar design conecpt in force on the tip? :thumbs:

[rarms]

I intend to get some Sierra Matchking for my .308 and they have a tiny hollow point too, but apparently ok for target as it is not designed to expand!

Edited March 24, 2006 by rarms

[henry d]

...and just to muddy the water,what twist does your rifle barrel have??as that will have a difference on bullet choice(the barrels not necessarily your`s)

[deadeye ive]

...and just to muddy the water,what twist does your rifle barrel have??as that will have a difference on bullet choice(the barrels not necessarily your`s)

1 in 12 H

[henry d]

OK .... I`m lead to believe that 1:12 twist is best for 55-60 gr bullets and for 45-50gr it`s 1:14................however..............

[The Sniper]

I like your "however " Henry because my 1 in 12 Remi VSSF 223 likes the 50g V max best.

 

I agree with Dunganick in that the most accurate bullet is the one that shoots best in YOUR gun.

 

When I was making up a load for the VSSF I tried various bullets and the V max came out tops for accuracy. So I stuck with them.

 

Deadeye,

 

You can discuss Boat tials, ballistic tips etc. etc. all day long. If the Eagles give you the accuracy and knockdown power at the ranges you want ( and they are cheaper !! ) stick with them. Save all your debating about different bullets for when/if you start reloading. Now that really will do your head in !!!

 

[Frank]

I like your "however " Henry because my 1 in 12 Remi VSSF 223 likes the 50g V max best.

 

I agree with Dunganick in that the most accurate bullet is the one that shoots best in YOUR gun.

 

When I was making up a load for the VSSF I tried various bullets and the V max came out tops for accuracy. So I stuck with them.

 

Deadeye,

 

You can discuss Boat tials, ballistic tips etc. etc. all day long. If the Eagles give you the accuracy and knockdown power at the ranges you want ( and they are cheaper !! ) stick with them. Save all your debating about different bullets for when/if you start reloading. Now that really will do your head in !!!

 

I agree.

My CZ .223 has a 1 in 12 too. It loves all bullets from 40 grain to 64 grain, performs best with Federal 40 grain Nosler ballistic tip factory ammo.

I am however interested in getting some of this American eagle stuff, as iv heard from other fellas that it is very accurate and cheap.

Ill get a box and see.

[deadeye ive]

You can discuss Boat tials, ballistic tips etc. etc. all day long. If the Eagles give you the accuracy and knockdown power at the ranges you want ( and they are cheaper !! B) ) stick with them. Save all your debating about different bullets for when/if you start reloading. Now that really will do your head in !!!

 

Sniper

 

Me heads done in now mate ....................Think I better leave the re-loading for a bit or I really will end up swinging from the light Flex

 

But there lies another question ..............I've seen the results of V-shok at this distance but not the AE Hollow point ........Only one way to find out

 

Frank my thinking is the lighter bullet route as opposed to bullet design so I might give them 40 grn V-shok a go ........I must be mad

 

Thanks for the replies fellas...............

 

Ive

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

Hi Sniper.

 

My Sako 223 also loves 50g V Max, and the only other buller that compares are Berger 50g hollowpoints.

 

I think that Bergers have a thinner wall than most hollowpopints, as the fragmentation can be absolutely awesome.

 

Both are just as accurate as each other - the V Max are BT whereas the Bergers are not.

 

Don

[The Sniper]

Deadeye,

 

I think you are going down the road that we all seem to try to find........to the Holy grail of cartridges/bullets for your rifle. :thumbs:

 

Save yourself some time and money. If you have found a cartridge that does the job for you, with the expanding power and accuracy you want, stick with it.

 

Realistically, what does an extra 1/4", or so, accuracy mean at 200 yards ?

 

[Gemini]

I once used a cheap box of Eley Club to practice with. It was brilliant, and as a result continued to use it in competitions. However, once that batch was exhausted I found that the next batch was pretty much useless.

You may just have found a good batch of American Eagle that has suited your barrel. The next box may well be a disaster. :thumbs:

Have you thought about trying Privi Partisan ammo? as I have heard some very good things about this ammo, whilst the AE stuff seems a bit suspect.

It does get a bit disconcerting when you can buy ammunition cheaper than you can buy the bloody brass for reloading though.

G.M.

[deadeye ive]

You may just have found a good batch of American Eagle that has suited your barrel. The next box may well be a disaster. :blink:

 

Have you thought about trying Privi Partisan ammo? as I have heard some very good things about this ammo, whilst the AE stuff seems a bit suspect.

 

It does get a bit disconcerting when you can buy ammunition cheaper than you can buy the bloody brass for reloading though.

G.M.

Yes i can relate to your comments Gm but I don't want to get bogged down with different brands for obvious reasons so I have'nt given the partisan a go although the v-shok in 40grn might be worth a go just to satisfy a curiosity .

 

I use to be indecisive but I'm not to sure now :wacko:

 

My original question was based on a earlier conversation stating that the Hollow point by the nature of it's design was more stable in flight due to ballistic Physics I think

 

Ive