beatingisbest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I dont currently have a shotgun certificate or FAC but i have seen .410 bolt actions. What are they like? Hopefully i will be applying for my shotgun licence soon but i would like to know what to get before i apply. It would be used for rabbits, pigeons, squirrels and vermin like crows. Thanks for any replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 A .410 is a useful gun, but it has strict limitations, on range and shot load. No doubt someone will post about shooting a fox at 50 yards right through the left ear with one, but discount such posts as fanciful. For a first weapon you would be well advised to purchase a 12 bore , double barreled shotgun with multi chokes. Assuming you have the physical build to use one (if not, consider a 20bore). There are many cheap/good value weapons around, both new and secondhand. When you have become an experienced shot, you will find the time and money to indulge yourself, by purchasing various weapons of limited use. One of them will be a bolt action single barreled .410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Just as cheap to buy a Semi 12g and 410 ammo is more expensive then 12g too 410s have their place with close work vermin but i would seriously get a 12g or maybe a 20g LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 A .410 is a useful gun, but it has strict limitations, on range and shot load. No doubt someone will post about shooting a fox at 50 yards right through the left ear with one, but discount such posts as fanciful. For a first weapon you would be well advised to purchase a 12 bore , double barreled shotgun with multi chokes. Assuming you have the physical build to use one (if not, consider a 20bore). There are many cheap/good value weapons around, both new and secondhand. When you have become an experienced shot, you will find the time and money to indulge yourself, by purchasing various weapons of limited use. One of them will be a bolt action single barreled .410. rotten sod you type faster than I do Only 50 yard foxing would be a Solid Slug and would require FAC LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I have two .410 bolts both of them are converted full bore rifles, one a P14 (quite common conversion) and one a Gewehr 88 (quite rare conversion) I don't use them very often, but it is nice to be able to use a gun which is more than 100 years old. I use them for close range rabbits and squirrels. It is nice to stalk to within 20 yrds of a rabbit and take them with this old gun Not sure I would bother with one of the more modern ones though, would have to be an old conversion. Fancy a .410 enfield next Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Your in the same boat as me, get your FAC in quick before summer comes or it will take months untill you get it. I ahve also considered buying a small bolt action Webly as I am a big fan of single shot weapons as I grew up shoooting targets at the local club with a bolt action single shot .22 rimmie, and most of my airguns are single shot (4 out of 5) the exeption being a co2 air pistol. Though really a double barrel .410 is more suitable, a bolt action has its uses but will require more care. They are also very cheap. The weblys are going round between 30-90 pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plexer Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 I would say for a first you'd be better of with 12b fixed choke then you can't keep changing chokes and blaiming them when you miss Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 (edited) Spot on I think to many people are worrying about their chokes and spread each time before they pull the trigger, loosing confidence at the wrong time.. as said once before in this forum, put some chokes in, and forget about them. Some people say .410 is for more skilled shooter because the spread is a lot smaller then 12 gauge. But what ever you shoot best with is what you should use.. try a few of your friends or clubs shotguns and see what your happy with. Its a good idea also, to make sure you start off with a secondhand shotgun as you can sell it on for the same price if it doesnt work for you. Shotguns are more important to fit the user then a firearm as you wont be using tellescopic sights.. your success is down to how well the shotgun fits you. The stock has to be the right length, and most importantly the correct height to bring your eye directly inline with the barrel (forget the bead sight, you dont need that), You just need to have the barrel level with your eye, and be able to move and point it well.. Edited March 26, 2006 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Some people say .410 is for more skilled shooter because the spread is a lot smaller then 12 gauge. "Some people" talk rubbish. beatingisbest, says he wants to shoot "rabbits, pigeons, squirrels and crows". A 12 bore is more effective against these quarry species at normal ranges, than a .410. I have owned .410s , including the ubiquitous Webley bolt action single and they are very limited weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickbmw Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 If you do decide to buy one I've got a nice Webley and Scott .410 bolt action for £50. Cheers Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nppulse Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 it all depends on what situation your in and where you can shoot. as i have a 12g and a moderated .410, and the .410 is ideal for a small(ish) paddock i have permission on but the 12g wouldn't put me in the good books with the owners after scaring the horses to death.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacker Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 It's a good little gun, but , i shoot with a hushpower, which takes 3" magnums & i think the bolt actions i've tried only take 2 1/2" carts, which is a bit limited for some types of shooting. Great for Rats though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Fancy a .410 enfield next Kyle Yeah i like the look of em too i have clapped my eyes on 4 but non are local. There is one in lincolnshire i MAY call in to view on my way back from a gun auction LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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