coneyhunter Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hello all, im looking at moving house and informed the firearms department today of the dates, i wanted to keep my guns at my parents address due to the location of the cabinets and the mass inconvinience of trying to take down cabinets that arne't supposed to be moved about. when i spoke to the officer she said that for my shotguns it wont be an issue but for my firearms it may be as i wont be reguarly in the house, despite my new address being less than a mile away from my new one and me having unrestricted access. i was told to send in a letter detailing the move and why i want to keep my guns at my parents house which i have done. This concerns me slightly, has anybody had this happen to them? could my firearms cert be revoked due to me changing address? i cant see a reason for revocation as the guns are secure and ive always kept my nose very clean, never even had a parking ticket but its troubling me, i have hundreds of pounds worth of guns and my new employment requires me to have an FAC!! any advice would be greatfully received and hopefully put my mind at rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I think your shooting organisation should be your first source of enquiry,especially if your employment depends on you having an FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyhunter Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 cheers, will give BASC a call if it becomes serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 i just waited till i could fit my safe propley left them in me old room in the cabernet where they had always bin l left them for six weeks then once i had fully moved in then went and got them never told the police i was moving phoned them two weeks ago and asked what i neededwas told to send a letter in which i did the same day not jeard ote yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I'm not getting the difference between shotguns and firearms (unless you are sharing a safe with a SGC holder?). Secure is secure and whether at home or not, it shouldn't be an issue? I don't understand why you can't remove the safe from where you are living now and bolt it in the new house? Would it really be that hard to do? If it was me and the job was tough I'd RFD the guns the day before you move, move and sort the safe then get them back? When I moved I put all my guns and the safe in my truck, went to the new house and fitted it. I left the mrs to sort everything else out with the removal company! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 when I moved, just moved cabinets in the back of the van, fitted asap after move, job done. remember, the wording is reasonable security, reasonable works both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 as above - ive moved recently and just chucked the rifles and safe in the car,drove down, fitted, guns back in. sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't understand why you can't remove the safe from where you are living now and bolt it in the new house? Would it really be that hard to do? If it was me and the job was tough I'd RFD the guns the day before you move, move and sort the safe then get them back? Yep, unless your going to have an issue with installing cabinet at new place (rented?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 the main issue they have is how likely are you to lock the guns up after an evenings lamping etc if its a mile away and is your parents house you could potentially not tell them you've moved, not ideal but an option. Otherwise I'd just move the safe into where you are now, the simple fact is the more inconvenient the safe location the less likely you will lock guns up as soon as you're home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 the main issue they have is how likely are you to lock the guns up after an evenings lamping etc if its a mile away and is your parents house you could potentially not tell them you've moved, not ideal but an option. Otherwise I'd just move the safe into where you are now, the simple fact is the more inconvenient the safe location the less likely you will lock guns up as soon as you're home I agree 100% with the above. But why is shotgun security considered to be less of an issue than firearm? They both have the same storage requirements apart from the ammunition so if you were going to take it home rather than go back to your parents to store it properly then one is no worse than the other? I still want to know why it's so hard to put the safe into where you're moving to? If the guns are important for your work and to you then you should be able to make allowances for them? It's not that hard to put a safe in even if you have to give your landlord £100 to hold onto to prove you will make good the bolt holes when you leave. A bit of filler and a dab of paint and they'd be none the wiser anyway?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyhunter Posted April 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) I agree 100% with the above. But why is shotgun security considered to be less of an issue than firearm? They both have the same storage requirements apart from the ammunition so if you were going to take it home rather than go back to your parents to store it properly then one is no worse than the other? I still want to know why it's so hard to put the safe into where you're moving to? If the guns are important for your work and to you then you should be able to make allowances for them? It's not that hard to put a safe in even if you have to give your landlord £100 to hold onto to prove you will make good the bolt holes when you leave. A bit of filler and a dab of paint and they'd be none the wiser anyway?! I can appreciate where you are coming from, it would be very difficult, but not impossible to remove my safes and reloacte them. I a moving into a rented property and am currently in talks with the landlord abut possibly moving my cabinets over, failing this i can store my guns in the gun club... with any luck i will be able to see my FLO soon and will have a definitive answer so can get the show on the road Edited April 28, 2011 by coneyhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 i had similar issues when i owned two homes, my guns had to be stored were i was sleeping - end of story no ifs or buts! I thought it daft at the time but understand that an empty house with firearms in is an increased security risk, i was also told that proceedure meant that in the event of an incedent at my house it would be attended my an ARV, if i wasn't registered as living there how would they know to send one . I know it might sound absurd but if your parents dont have the Fac for your guns how can they be reasonably secure from them if you leave them unattended for days perhaps even if locked away? I just recently had all my guns in storage pending renovations that required the removal and re-fitting of my safes, i would also consider doing the same if i was away on holiday now. The thought of just one nutter getting hold of my firearms and running riot with them leaves me cold and such a thing WILL effect us all in any future legislation, so lets all do the very best we can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 The rented property thing makes sense. I guess the best you can offer is to leave a deposit that protects the landlord from having to deal with a load of holes in his walls when you leave! If you try to bolt it in the back of a cupboard or in the attic then the patching is less vital anyway and more likely to be accepted by the owner. If you have solid walls in the new place use concrete bolts. You drill a hole and screw them straight in - they're rock solid and screw back out just as easily in the future leaving a 10mm hole that's dead easy to patch with a tube of filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny12w Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 personally i would just read the contract for your new place carefully - if it doesnt say anywhere that you cant have any guns then just fit the cabinets and when you move out just fill the holes in. The landlord never needs to know - this is what i did and the firearms man had no problems with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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