poacher boy Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 (edited) HI i am looking to see if some one would take me and a friend out with them when shooting deer. I would like to get a shot if possible have a 223 tikka, have a few days off in June & July am willing to travel Scotland & England . Edited May 31, 2011 by poacher boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallet Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I presume that you are only after Muntjac or Chinese water Deer with that calibre and you have Deer condition on your License?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Are there any CWD or Muntjac in NI ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I presume that you are only after Muntjac or Chinese water Deer with that calibre and you have Deer condition on your License?? You presume correct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Are there any CWD or Muntjac in NI ? No not that i am aware off, wish there was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 so your asking for something that dosent exsist? (ok thiers like 20 muntys in irland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 .223 is legal for Roe a little boat ride over the water to Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 so your asking for something that dosent exsist? (ok thiers like 20 muntys in irland) Read the post it said NI which is Northern Ireland :o not Ireland What am i asking for that doesnt exsist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 quote name='CZ550Kevlar' timestamp='1306802804' post='1428480'] .223 is legal for Roe a little boat ride over the water to Scotland. That would be great, just need some fool to fix me up with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 must be interesting getting a deer condition for a rifle you can't use on deer in your country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) must be interesting getting a deer condition for a rifle you can't use on deer in your country Its called forward thinking that means when i travel (like i said in post) i will have less hassel when shooting deer, if i get the chance. ps don't no whats interesting about getting a condition please tell? Edited May 31, 2011 by poacher boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 HI i am looking to see if some one would take me and a friend out with them when shooting deer. I would like to get a shot if possible have a 223 tikka, have a few days off in June & July am willing to travel . .223 is legal for Roe a little boat ride over the water to Scotland. That would be great, just need some fool to fix me up with them Could i suggest expanding your search post request to include will travel to the mainland ie. England, Scotland, Wales?? it came over that you want to shoot in Ireland only, you could be lucky and get a hit over the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Could i suggest expanding your search post request to include will travel to the mainland ie. England, Scotland, Wales?? it came over that you want to shoot in Ireland only, you could be lucky and get a hit over the water? Your spot on my fault Thank you. Edited May 31, 2011 by poacher boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidney505 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong but if memory serves it use to be legal to shoot muntjack with a shotgun and AAA shot under certain circumstances (I know you have a .223) but a amendments means it is now illegal to use anything less than a .240 caliber rifle. See Schedule 2 at the bottom of the page on this link Deer Act 1991 Edited May 31, 2011 by Kidney505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Correct me if I'm wrong but if memory serves it use to be legal to shoot muntjack with a shotgun and AAA shot under certain circumstances (I know you have a .223) but a amendments means it is now illegal to use anything less than a .240 caliber rifle. See Schedule 2 at the bottom of the page on this link Deer Act 1991 Keep up to date and see: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/2183/article/3/made And note that Munjac and CWD can be shot in England with a .223 Also, the famers' exemtion you refer to with shotgun and AAA shot still remains in place provided certain conditions are met Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I know the boy’s Irish but this is kinda silly….with a .223 he’s either got to travel to Scotland to shoot a roe or travel to south/east England to shoot Muntjac or a CWD (when they are in season). Go figure. .223 is a foxing calibre NOT a deer stalking calibre no matter what the legals say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 when could you shoot muntjac with a shotgun? not going to just intrested? john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 you still can, using the correct shot and under the correct conditions. Works very well but the BDS etc hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 but what would the 'correct conditions' be? injured,ill, etc?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I know the boy’s Irish but this is kinda silly….with a .223 he’s either got to travel to Scotland to shoot a roe or travel to south/east England to shoot Muntjac or a CWD (when they are in season). Go figure. .223 is a foxing calibre NOT a deer stalking calibre no matter what the legals say! You assume to much as i am not Irish and i have said in my posts i am willing to travel to Scotland / England so what is kinda silly? You say i have to travel to Scotland or south/east England to shoot deer with .223 then later you say its a foxing calibre not deer, :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 but what would the 'correct conditions' be? injured,ill, etc?? the farmers exemption which is related to serious crop damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 aww i see. cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Highlander, .223 is a foxing calibre NOT a deer stalking calibre no matter what the legals say! Got to disagree with you on this one, I am a big fan of the .22 centerfires for Roe deer and have used them a lot, like many other keepers and stalkers in Scotland. I have a regular client from Lincolnshire who has 30-06 and .243 but still prefers to bring his .223 when he comes up to stalk with me, he's shot 10 medal class bucks with it in the last 4 years. I personally use a 22-250 and find the fast bullet and expansion suits Roe perfectly, usually dropping them on the spot or within a few steps. Cheers, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 would you buy one for deer if you lived in a country with no deer you could legally shoot with it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Maybe not Irish by birth but surely someone in your family must be! Why I’m even bothering to explain this is beyond me…I must be bored today! The law in the UK has recently been changed (well 2007) to allow the use of .223 on Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer ONLY. As these species are only present in (for the sake of argument) the southern and eastern parts of ENGLAND that’s where you’d have to go to shoot one. I thought I might have been wrong in saying Scotland for Roe as under Scottish law it’s bullet weight/velocity that determines what you can (legally) shoot and I don’t think .223 comes up to scratch. I don’t know for sure and I’m not about to spend time looking it up however Mark Robson has just confirmed it’s OK so that’s good enough for me! My thoughts are still, why would you buy a rifle in a caliber that’s useful for fox shooting BUT not much use (or generally legal) for deer shooting and then think about going deer stalking so far from home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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