Jimbo999123 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I will soon be moving out or my parents house and into a rented flat do I have to inform my landlord of my gun cabinet? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 You probably do but i have never bothered, I always make sure I do a good job of filling and painting afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I would because it will involve drilling holes in the walls which dont belong to you. Dont bother chopping the skirting out-just stick the cabinet on a brick and then attach it to wall as normal.It minimises damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchynik Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 So long as your girlfriend doesn't move in and object to you having guns in the place you'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 dont tell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I'm a landlord my self, and if you tell your landlord you will be attaching a gun safe to the wall using four fixings and making good before you leave there is no reason he or she should say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 No doubt like me you have to make good any damage you may cause during your tenancy. just a matter of makeing good when and if you leave . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poacher boy Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 keep it to yourself the less people who know about your gun/guns the better, just my thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny12w Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I would because it will involve drilling holes in the walls which dont belong to you. Dont bother chopping the skirting out-just stick the cabinet on a brick and then attach it to wall as normal.It minimises damage. I put the gun cabinet on some timber and then screwed it into the wall and the timber as well. This was instead of cutting out the skirting board. I never told my landlord that I was going to install a gun cabinet however I did read the rental contract to find out whether it specifically stated that no guns were allowed in the house. When I moved out i just filled in the holes, painted it & no one was any the wiser! Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I've never told mine, what she doesn't know doesn't hurt her. Watch out for where you can put your cabinet if the place is quite new, I found no solid walls that were viable. Had to put it it's back and bolt it in to the concrete of the floor. As long as you can make good it's just like hanging a very large picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBaz Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 As above but don't tell them what it is for, just that you want to fix some pictures and shelves to the wall securely and offer to make good the wall when you leave. There is no legal requirement to tell them and by having and fitting a cabinet you are abiding by the law, and that is all that counts. Just a little thing though as a sweetener for the landlord/you/future buyers, offer to fit a wireless burglar alarm, £100-150, DIY job to fit and always a good idea to have, even better when you can talk the landlord to pay for it if you fit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 When we lived in a rented property we had a cabinet in the loft screwed to the joists - no problem with the FEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo999123 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Ok sounds like no need to bother cheers for the advice guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Ok sounds like no need to bother cheers for the advice guys I would be careful about following advice on an internet forum. Whatever people say it will not be them at the end of the day who will have to face any consequences that might come. Tell your landlord. Neglecting to do so might see you in breach of contract and lose part or the entirety of your deposit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchynik Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I would be careful about following advice on an internet forum. Whatever people say it will not be them at the end of the day who will have to face any consequences that might come. Tell your landlord. Neglecting to do so might see you in breach of contract and lose part or the entirety of your deposit. +1 It's far from advice. Take it is opinion & information and then make your own "informed" decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 +1 It's far from advice. Take it is opinion & information and then make your own "informed" decision. Surely the key is whats in his contract :- if theres a clause saying no guns then he's on a sticky wicket, if theres a clause saying nothing to be affixed to the walls likewise, but if neither is present how can a labndlord take his deposit, provided he makes good on leaving. The fact that one of his perfectly legal posessions happens to be a gun is none of the landlords business. Reminds me of the thread a few weeks back regarding taking your gun into a hotel. You start asking "can I" and you will get someone who doesent know any better or has some anti axe to grind deciding the safe answer is no. If we decide ourselves that owning your own home is a prerequisite to applying to a sgc/fac then with the way that the possibilities of home owwnership are dwindling for people today then our sport will alaso dwindle by the back door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Surely the key is whats in his contract :- if theres a clause saying no guns then he's on a sticky wicket, if theres a clause saying nothing to be affixed to the walls likewise, but if neither is present how can a labndlord take his deposit, provided he makes good on leaving. The issue would be if the landlord 'found' the gun cabinet. Unless you have it in writing that you can drill the walls then it could be claimed as criminal damage. Doesn't matter if you intended to 'make good' or not. You have wilfully damaged someone else's property without their permission. You can just imagine being landed with a bill for re-plastering the wall and redecorating the room, where a spot of pollyfilla and a dab of pain would have covered things nicely! Wave goodbye to your deposit! Ask the sodding landlord. It's their house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_h Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Possibly an easier way of breaking it your landlord would be to ask if you can fit a safe to a wall/ floor ect, if you are unsure of their attitude towards firearms. Edited June 2, 2011 by k_h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 The issue would be if the landlord 'found' the gun cabinet. Unless you have it in writing that you can drill the walls then it could be claimed as criminal damage. Doesn't matter if you intended to 'make good' or not. You have wilfully damaged someone else's property without their permission. You can just imagine being landed with a bill for re-plastering the wall and redecorating the room, where a spot of pollyfilla and a dab of pain would have covered things nicely! Wave goodbye to your deposit! Ask the sodding landlord. It's their house. Unless theres a term in the contract forbiding you from drilling into the walls the landlord wouldn't have a leg to stand on. A landlord trying to claim criminal dammage because a tenant had screwed a plasma screen would be laughed out of court; why would a metal box used to store guns , placed in a cuboard or under the stairs be any more of an issue. Why should he ask the "sodding Landlord"- they may own it. but while you are paying rent for it it is your house ! frankly most landlords would be overjoyed if the only dammage when their tennants move out was a couple of made good holes in the plaster hidden in a cupboard . I was also under the assumption that the new procedures for holding deposits made it hard for the landlord to hold back deposit money for real damage let alone dubious stuff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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