Lloyd90 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Am looking to join a wildfowling club and dont think my Browning Medalist is proofed for steel Also its not in the best shape anyways as I got it second hand, I clean it and look after it but it might get a bit minced out fowling. I was in the gunshop yesterday and checking out some semi auto's and came across a Benelli SuperNova. I think it was around £500 which is MUCH less than all the other semi's and that (Yes Im aware its a pump not semi) and it seemed like a real nice gun in general Just wondering if anyone has one and what you think ? Also is there anywhere around I could try shooting a pump gun ? As I shot double barrels and a semi but never a pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Am looking to join a wildfowling club and dont think my Browning Medalist is proofed for steel Also its not in the best shape anyways as I got it second hand, I clean it and look after it but it might get a bit minced out fowling. I was in the gunshop yesterday and checking out some semi auto's and came across a Benelli SuperNova. I think it was around £500 which is MUCH less than all the other semi's and that (Yes Im aware its a pump not semi) and it seemed like a real nice gun in general Just wondering if anyone has one and what you think ? Also is there anywhere around I could try shooting a pump gun ? As I shot double barrels and a semi but never a pump Hi, I have a Benelli Supernova that I bought for my son, he gets on with great and uses it for pigeons. The problem I found with it, is that I always forget to pump it for the second shot. I even tell myself "don't forget to pump" but on that second shot I still forget. Regards, Reggiegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 It`s the greatest thing since sliced bread.Handles reasonably,the camo ones won`t rust and it can`t jam. Eats everything you feed it and is relatively inexpensive. If you`ve never used a pump, shoot a hundred clays straight off and, by the time you`ve finished, if you have no more than even average manual dexterity and coordination, you will find actuating the gun has become second nature. Most people who have issues with a pump actually give up on them far too soon, they do take a bit of application but it soon becomes instinctive. I thoroughly recommend it for wildfowling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 It`s the greatest thing since sliced bread.Handles reasonably,the camo ones won`t rust and it can`t jam. Eats everything you feed it and is relatively inexpensive. If you`ve never used a pump, shoot a hundred clays straight off and, by the time you`ve finished, if you have no more than even average manual dexterity and coordination, you will find actuating the gun has become second nature. Most people who have issues with a pump actually give up on them far too soon, they do take a bit of application but it soon becomes instinctive. I thoroughly recommend it for wildfowling. top marks here +100 went out and did clayspank 2010, 1000 shells, slightky less clays..... after you could shoot anything with it. i seriously hated it when i got it but i needed a trash gun. i would recomend it, and running a few loads in it. i tried every type of shell, 2.5" jam every now and again. as value for money, its very high marked. but as for practicality for clays its very poor. i shoot clays all the time with mine. i love to run cheap steel in it, hence the 1000 shells every now and a gain. i`m a low gun shooter and pumping couldnt be easyer, on a pair, pull. gun up, bang. gun down and pump as i move it in the right direction of the clay, gun up, bang. i would recomend getting a smaller one. 28" is bl00dy long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 A couple of nit picking observations. The gun is incapable of recognising the length of cartridge case and if you had issues with 65mm cases it was because the gun was "short shucked",improperly pumped. I`m not sure why a pump should be impractical for clays. I use mine for clays without issue and in America, the home of the pump, every major clay competition in every discipline has been won at some time with a pump.Fortunately the original enquirer only wants it for `fowling. The true art of using a pump is to get used to pumping it whilst still in the shoulder. Take a look at some of the Benelli trick shooters on You tube to see how it`s done properly. I agree that the 28 is too long. Mine is a 26" and handles well.I have not tried a 24" but I`d be interested to feel how it handles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 yes its comont to have feed issues with the 2.5" shells. the manual says only use shells that are 2,3/4" ,3" and 3.5" . i know i read it. its also stamped on the side of the gun. with "read owners manual" the jams were hangups on shell ejection. pumps are impractical for clayshooting, does faulds /digweed use one? not bad guns, just not my sunday best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I`m really not looking for an argument but I must have been very lucky with the many hundreds of 65 and 67mm cartridges that I`ve fired without ejection problems, as have many other Supernova owners. This gun is designed for the U.S. market where 65mm cartridges are almost unheard of. I have the manual open in front of me. Nowhere does it say "only use shells that are 70mm etc." What it actually says is "Supernova can use cartridges with a 70mm etc case." Nowhere does it say "Don`t use 65mm cases." You will simply be hard pressed to find shorter than 70mm cases in the U.S. It functions perfectly well with shorter than 70mm cases. As I stated earlier, the gun has no idea of the cartridge length. Your hangups are down to operator error. As has been proved by many top flight American shooters, the pump is perfectly suited to clays, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT`S USE. Sorry to disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I also used to use clear pigeon through my supernova which, if my memory serves me correctly are 65mm cases never had issues with mine except me I remember this as when I sold mine I had some surplus clear pigeon that would not cycle through my auto (2 3/4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnjeep Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Am looking to join a wildfowling club and dont think my Browning Medalist is proofed for steel Also its not in the best shape anyways as I got it second hand, I clean it and look after it but it might get a bit minced out fowling. I was in the gunshop yesterday and checking out some semi auto's and came across a Benelli SuperNova. I think it was around £500 which is MUCH less than all the other semi's and that (Yes Im aware its a pump not semi) and it seemed like a real nice gun in general Just wondering if anyone has one and what you think ? Also is there anywhere around I could try shooting a pump gun ? As I shot double barrels and a semi but never a pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnjeep Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Best thing since sliced bread,The "GLOCK"of the shotgun world.mine feeds 65mm,67.5,and the rest...no jams because its manual.in the 50/s n 60/s USA.world champions all favoured pumps,could/nt risk dropping apoint with a jam.likewise most loaw enforcement.practice,and you will pattern your brain n muscles to pump,THINK!you use two triggers on some guns.lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I`m really not looking for an argument but I must have been very lucky with the many hundreds of 65 and 67mm cartridges that I`ve fired without ejection problems, as have many other Supernova owners. This gun is designed for the U.S. market where 65mm cartridges are almost unheard of. I have the manual open in front of me. Nowhere does it say "only use shells that are 70mm etc." What it actually says is "Supernova can use cartridges with a 70mm etc case." Nowhere does it say "Don`t use 65mm cases." You will simply be hard pressed to find shorter than 70mm cases in the U.S. It functions perfectly well with shorter than 70mm cases. As I stated earlier, the gun has no idea of the cartridge length. Your hangups are down to operator error. As has been proved by many top flight American shooters, the pump is perfectly suited to clays, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT`S USE. Sorry to disagree with you. it does make a difference, those 65mm shells dont eject as well because of the open length, the rotory head grips the case and using a spring and latch in the body of the gun, uses the length to put this under tension as the gun is pumped. the longer the case the more tension it has before it is released. those smaller cases just barely fall out, the 70mm fly out, and the 76mm shoot out. i`ve never tried the 3.5" shells. i believe i read somewhere the gun refuses to eject 2" shells. because oth this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Again,respectfully.I can get 65mm cases to eject a good three feet from my gun without effort. At the start of this thread you described how you pumped the gun out of your shoulder and using both hands. If you think about the mechanics of doing that it is a recipe for inconsistency since,unless you rest the gun against some other part of your body, you have nothing firm to pump against. I guarantee that if you give the following a fair trial all your premature ejaculation problems will vanish. Apply a slight rearward pressure on the fore end and keep the gun in your shoulder after you have fired the shot. At the moment of pulling the trigger the fore end will move slightly rearwards on it`s own. Couple this with your rearward pressure, now transmitted to a full strength "pump" against the resistance of your shoulder the bolt can be moved smartly to the rear with sufficient energy to crisply eject the empty. Snap the fore end forward and you`re ready to go again. Give this a fair trial and your enjoyment and efficient use of your pump will increase tenfold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 loaded 2 inch black powder cases and never had a prob with my supernova.craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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