mylibido08 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 hi all, recently chrono tested my weihrauch hw80k and with the pellets im using it came in at about 11.7 ft per pound, but when trying a different type of pellet it rose to about 12.7 (which is obviously illegal for myself and i won't be using ) should i have any concerns even though with my usual pellets im under the legal limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 hi all, recently chrono tested my weihrauch hw80k and with the pellets im using it came in at about 11.7 ft per pound, but when trying a different type of pellet it rose to about 12.7 (which is obviously illegal for myself and i won't be using ) should i have any concerns even though with my usual pellets im under the legal limit? Have it de-tuned to around 10.5 ft/lb It will shooter sweeter and be legal. There isn't that much difference in range between 10 ft/lb and 12 ft/lb when you get down to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 My advice is to stick with the pellet brand that keeps you legal.IMO there is NO need to reduce the overall power of the spring but to choose the pellet which suits the rifle best and keeping you within the law! ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylibido08 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 yeah i mean i wouldn't even contemplate using any pellet that would take my gun over the legal limit , was just really surprised on how different pellets would produce such vast results. i mean say for example i was stopped by the police whilst on one of my permissions, would they use the pellet that i was using to test the power my gun was working at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 My advice is to stick with the pellet brand that keeps you legal.IMO there is NO need to reduce the overall power of the spring but to choose the pellet which suits the rifle best and keeping you within the law! ATB. That is bad advice. Get it de-tuned ASAP unless you are willing to loose the gun and get a fire-arms offence on record. I for one would not be willing to take the risk, there is no grey area with gun laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 yeah i mean i wouldn't even contemplate using any pellet that would take my gun over the legal limit , was just really surprised on how different pellets would produce such vast results. i mean say for example i was stopped by the police whilst on one of my permissions, would they use the pellet that i was using to test the power my gun was working at? They may choose to use a selection of pellets. BTW, did you alter the pellet weight on the chrono? I'm sure you would have but just thought I'd check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 That is bad advice. Get it de-tuned ASAP unless you are willing to loose the gun and get a fire-arms offence on record. I for one would not be willing to take the risk, there is no grey area with gun laws. How is that bad advice?!The gentleman said that he used pellets that were within the legal limit!There are plenty of pellets on the Market that will keep you within the Law providing you Chrono it properly.There is NO need to de-tune it if your pellets are within the legal limit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 How is that bad advice?!The gentleman said that he used pellets that were within the legal limit!There are plenty of pellets on the Market that will keep you within the Law providing you Chrono it properly.There is NO need to de-tune it if your pellets are within the legal limit! It's bad advice because the police won't be testing the pellets, they will be testing the rifle. An air rifle that can exceed 12 ft/lbs needs a section 1 cert so if, during it's test, it does exceed 12 ft/lbs then he will be in real trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's bad advice because the police won't be testing the pellets, they will be testing the rifle. An air rifle that can exceed 12 ft/lbs needs a section 1 cert so if, during it's test, it does exceed 12 ft/lbs then he will be in real trouble. bullet boy... ... in principle that is the case, the police can/will use whatever pellets they want, and if ANY of them take the gun over 12ft lb the proverbial will hit the fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylibido08 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 thanks guys!! much appreciated advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 The offence is commited by having an Air Rifle that is "capable" of producing over 12 ft/lb.It would be a poor defence to buy a hyper tuned gun but promise that you are only going to use wooden pellets in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 bullet boy... ... in principle that is the case, the police can/will use whatever pellets they want, and if ANY of them take the gun over 12ft lb the proverbial will hit the fan! Your right in one respect saying that if your rifle exceeds the limit then you are breaking the Law and of course you are!I have tested many HW80's over the years and know with the right pellet will and can be sub 12ft/lbs keeping you legal!Does that mean then all HW80 owners have to de-tune their rifle's then-No,just make sure that the ammo their using stays within the sub 12ft/lbs limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Sorry bullet boy but it don't work like that. My guns only 11.4 ftlb for a reason so to make sure I'm clear if tested . Your giving bad advice there.fact. I had a hw 90 once which was a hullcartridge genuine import producing 14.7 ftlb and I know I would of been in big trouble but I kept it like that. As long as your willing to face the music if caught just leave and also the springs going to weaken anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookytooth Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 It also ought to be pointed out that mylibido08's HW80 is still pretty new - probably only a couple of months old. He's probably only put a tin or so of pellets through it but I understand it's still more than likely running in, so the power may creep up anyway. Better be safe than sorry IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Your right in one respect saying that if your rifle exceeds the limit then you are breaking the Law and of course you are!I have tested many HW80's over the years and know with the right pellet will and can be sub 12ft/lbs keeping you legal!Does that mean then all HW80 owners have to de-tune their rifle's then-No,just make sure that the ammo their using stays within the sub 12ft/lbs limit. 'bullet boy' The police can/will use whatever pellets they want, and if ANY of them take the gun over 12ft lb the proverbial will hit the fan! Nobody is singling out HW owners, the law applies to all makes and models! Edited June 24, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookytooth Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Just want to bring to attention a post about this same gun/subject on another thread: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/170979-wich-wierauch-to-buy/page__p__1448546__fromsearch__1#entry1448546 I'm only mentioning it because it seems there are folk that are not aware of just how varied results can be. If you check out my post further down the page you'll see mylibido08's HW80 couldn't even re-set a target, whilst my HW97 and a TX200 had no problems - all using the same pellet type. My HW97 chronoed at the same time as the HW80 is only measuring about 10.8 lbs/ft, although it's a bit newer and is still slightly dieseling. Go figure! :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.b Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Iv just been reading similer story and the man got 3 years with the judge saying its a gun owners responisbilty to insure there gun can not go over, no matter what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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