vampire Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I have been waiting since the begining of the year for my lab pup and now the breeder informs me that there will be no more pups this year (winter pups)and its best to wait till spring.......that will be a year waiting.The dogs are good health as lots of people in the area have one and none have ever had any health issues, they are pedigree labs at a very reasonable price. Should i wait till spring for one of these pups or look elsewhere. I am now working on a house that has 2 sprockers that are very nice dogs and would love one as a working dog,but i couldnt have one that was hypo,hence why i was looking at labs. Are sprockers generaly more calm than springers as i do prefer spaniels to labs but it has to be a steady calm dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Karl, labs everytime mate but I'd look elsewhere mate I got mine from stow for 300 kc reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Karl, labs everytime mate but I'd look elsewhere mate I got mine from stow for 300 kc reg Can you pm me where they came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 No shortage of well bred labs, you'll get a decent pup without too much bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Ur inbox is full mate.they are not breeding anymore mate, I no some1 at halesworth had bitches for 300 and dogs for 250 but don't think they were kc , not sure how inportant kc reg is but the number is 01986874866 not sure if they have got any left but worth a go mate, matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I know of a litter of well bred springers and i'm sure i could get you a good price for one.Only dog's availible at the minute these dogs are top lines, thye have all the gears when you want them but also very steady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thanks for replys Puppy must be a HEALTHY male and calm,either a working lab black/foxred or sprocker spaniel and local (suffolk),cant have any hypo dogs as i would not keep up and it would drive my gsd mad. As for pedigree,def no show dogs and after spending a small fortune on my gsd with good german pedigree only to have major health issues/costs,i am not to bothered about ftch in the lines as more important that the pup has been bred from healthy lines of working stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 My lab bitch is the calmest lab iv ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazco2121 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 A lab is born half trained, a springer dies half trained :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 A lab is born half trained, a springer dies half trained :lol: :lol: :lol:,i think you are probaly right having seen another cocker today that was as mad as a box of frogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Puppy must be a HEALTHY male and calm,either a working lab black/foxred or sprocker spaniel and local (suffolk),cant have any hypo dogs as i would not keep up and it would drive my gsd mad. That would be down to you, aye? They don't hyper or un-hyper themselves, it's what training goes into them, house or field You can let 'em fetch your slippers outside just as easily as you can let them get ahold of shoes indoors and gently admonish them about it. Likewise, when they want permission at 12 weeks old to belly up to the bar for a drink indoors but don't need no permission, again 12 weeks old again, to go into the drink for something else to put into their mouths. All about the training, mate - not what gundog's born hyper, or what ain't. MG Edited July 9, 2011 by cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 rubbish labs every time , what kind of shooting do you want the dog for? ive had labs and have just entered the world of cockers and i would have a cocker over a lab anyday now , but that is minly due to me doing a lot more beating with them then picking up but one thing for labs if you train them from a pup to go in harsh rough cover then they will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Though i would love and prefer a spaniel,the calmer disposition of a lab makes it a more viable option to fit in with what i need and to fit with the familys' german sheperd. The kind of shooting i do is,lamping rabbits with rifles and shotguns,then from harvest i will be shooting pigeons everyweek and finaly i also shoot muntjac/fox,one thing it will never have to do is go beating/picking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I have known some hyper labs and some very laid back almost dopey spaniels, it aint all training but you must know what you have and act acordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 There is no hunting in any of the shooting disciplines you mention so a hunting dog is not what you need, a retriever is. As kent says there are hot labs, so research breed lines and, more importantly, the characteristics of the sire and dam of any litter you look at and you won't go wrong with a lab for what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 also there is the reverse type lab that gets fat easily and is very lazy. You don't want a hot one but you don't want one too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 My first dog that i trained myself was a lab, he turned out to be a hot lab, still to this day i have never seen a dog cover ground on a retrieve so fast. If i had him as a pup now i reckon i could have made a first class dog from him but i made a few mistakes and he never really reached his full potentional, real pity too. So don't get fooled into the old saying about labs being born half trained their not. As WGD says do your research into the breeding as some dogs suit some owners more than other lines will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 There is no hunting in any of the shooting disciplines you mention so a hunting dog is not what you need, a retriever is. As kent says there are hot labs, so research breed lines and, more importantly, the characteristics of the sire and dam of any litter you look at and you won't go wrong with a lab for what you need. Thanks for advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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