Sprags Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I couldn't reply on the other thread as it has been locked, but I just wanted to ask/request that just because it's not to your liking don't condemn it. There are some accomplished shots out there who enjoy their sport and have put a lot of time, money and effort into obtaining the proper equipment and experimenting with different loads to achieve the accuracy they enjoy. I'm not going to go and on but simply ask that the non-long range guys lay off the long range guys. Now, I'll get my coat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I have no problem with long range as such, but personally can`t see routinely shooting at living things at headspinning yardages as conducive to anything for the good. Regardless of how good you and your equipment are, it is by definition easier (even for the ultra expert) to wound at 600 yards than it is at 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 As above, it's not the ability to shoot this range, it's the question why on live animals, I've lived in Scotland all my life just about and have seen reds and roe and never met anyone who thinks you need to shoot long range for a cull or otherwise. Regards, Gixer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 It's not a question of going purposely far away. More that if I see a rabbit several hundred yards off, and I can hit that, I won't crawl through the mud to get closer. Given the chance I would take the closer shots. The longer range is more fun though, and it's tremendous to watch a rabbit drop a long way off when you get the settings and shot right. As already stated, it's a centrefire vs a rabbit, so Thor's hammer is about right. Either a clean miss or a clean kill, and I am happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I couldn't reply on the other thread as it has been locked, but I just wanted to ask/request that just because it's not to your liking don't condemn it. There are some accomplished shots out there who enjoy their sport and have put a lot of time, money and effort into obtaining the proper equipment and experimenting with different loads to achieve the accuracy they enjoy. I'm not going to go and on but simply ask that the non-long range guys lay off the long range guys. Now, I'll get my coat! Any chance o having a go on your avator mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Any chance o having a go on your avator mate? back of the que mate lol you do know that this will be locked as soon as the mods se it like the last thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprags Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Any chance o having a go on your avator mate? Sorry, she only likes the long range fella's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprags Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 you do know that this will be locked as soon as the mods se it like the last thread Yeah, I know that, but why? It's a simple discussion regarding two different opinions of shooting, surely it should be allowed to stay. I just wish some folk would pull their heads out of their *** and accept that people do things diffently, you may not agree with their chosen discipline but it's their choice and as such should be respected. Someone in an earlier thread mentioned 'educating pork', sometimes it does seem that way. We dont want to try and persuade you that you are wrong in shooting the way you do and long range is the only way to do it, No, not at all. We simply do things differently. Anyway, I'm off to bed to dream of the long range, one shot, cold bore kills I strive for. Or should I change that to 100yd 4MOA groups just to fit in with the majority..........? Just kidding, keep your ******' knickers on ladies! Regards,Sprags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I would say that there is more skill in getting really close to your target, than shooting it from really far. No one will ever slate you for shooting a 1000 yard piece of paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) I would say that there is more skill in getting really close to your target, than shooting it from really far. No one will ever slate you for shooting a 1000 yard piece of paper. Your wasting your time Billy as some people have bone through from ear to ear. Some people breed dogs with loving care, some people have puppy farms, one is cruel and unnecessary but both will justify their actions, the outcome is almost the same. Edited July 13, 2011 by Redgum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprags Posted July 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 And because you don't agree with it you slate it, you have now started insulting people with the 'bone through from ear to ear' comment. Real mature that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 And because you don't agree with it you slate it, you have now started insulting people with the 'bone through from ear to ear' comment. Real mature that! Although in fairness the usual subjects come away with comments like "educate pork" so it happens on both sides and to be honest I can see why someone gets frustrated as I find the unessasary long range shooting a bit distressing too as there is more chance of a bad hit and this means there is more chance of wounding and thats a fact no matter what people say, you up the variables, you up the risk. As has been said it's a bit sniper/waltish and to use open highlands ground as a reason is a joke, I've lived in open highland ground most of my life and can hand on heart say I've never needed to take a long range shot on live targets, of course there will be the "because you can't do it you slate it" - in response to that there are a couple of forum Members who have seen me punch paper at long range and it's confirmed so I couldn't give a monkeys about proving anything on a pigeon shooting forum.... I expect there is also an element of laziness in the long range thing from Some but most I think are only doing it to satisfy there sniper wants.... As Billy said, no one will ever say a bad word about punching paper at long range. I'm finished with the long range debate and this is why I've stayed out of them recently, I will shoot as I do on the basis of being trained and educated by people who have spent decades doing this and are respected in the field sports/craft community, they are modest buy confident in thier abilities and rarely actually post on here although usually when asked about the long range debate you get one answer - Cock measuring contests that are unessassary unless you have a lesser IQ than the beast you are shooting and are worried it will out smart you in the stalk....it appears some are out smarted by rabbits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Your wasting your time Billy as some people have bone through from ear to ear. Some people breed dogs with loving care, some people have puppy farms, one is cruel and unnecessary but both will justify their actions, the outcome is almost the same. while one promotes head shots on deer I'd keep quiet on ethical grounds there is a reason its not a target area specified when you did your DSC I'd be far happier shooting at a rabbit at 500 yards with the very near certainty it was a hit or a miss than chancing taking a jaw off a deer at 100 yards I've seen a couple of 400 yard shots on foxes and watching someone whose livelihood depends on it with 40 years experience doing it is quite something. Edited July 13, 2011 by al4x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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