southrop Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I am going try out some 21 gm compx fibre this weekend considering the excellent write up they seems to get everywhere but wondered given there are 75% fewer pellets in a 21 gm load cf. 28 gm I wondered does this mean do you need to choke up more or, given the excellent supposed patterns, use less choke? Any thoughts or experiences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 25% fewer, I wouldn't change choke use what you normally use and you'll be fine what shells do you normally use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 24 gm vip's, I'm downsizing! The 24 gm compx fibres get excellent reviews. I normally shoot IC & LM or LM & M through a guerini summitt impact. The guerini chokes are excellent and shoot tight anyway. I think you might be right about sticking to the same chokes though, given it only takes 3-4 pellets to break the clay anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Eley VIP's? You may notice a bit of a difference! CompX are low recoil and some say much slower, they also sound and smell very different! Thats a big difference i have shot Compak 24g and CompX 21g in the same round and it's noticeable (especially the smell!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I will give em a go and see what happens. I'll have to raid the piggy back again if all goes to rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 You are going from one extreme to the other! What are you shooting? I know guys who shoot OT with VIP's and skeet with 21g firsts..... Skeet should be fine but OT/ABT/DTL you may find it a bit different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Sporting. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Youl be fine mate, stick your halves in and you can kill way out there so long as you put it in the right spot. We were breaking some long old clays with them whilst they were being developed. Using big chokes but still, breaks even the long stuff ok and the majority of club stuff you see now will be more than enough to do the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrop Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I tend to agree Ed, I will feedback tomo after the 100 Reg at Fauxdegla. If all goes well it will save £60 per though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I use nothing else but the 21g Comp X. I use 1/4 + 1/4 for all sporting/skeet. I'll use plastic wads if I need to take out 50+yds edge on targets rather than change chokes. Works very well indeed. I have shot trap with them with 1/4 + 1/4 and plastic wads....they surprised the cr** out of me.....they really did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I use the comp x 21G same as coach only in fibre due to some ground restrictions, never changed the chokes from when using 28G cartridges, can still hit or miss the clays the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Youl be fine mate, stick your halves in and you can kill way out there so long as you put it in the right spot. We were breaking some long old clays with them whilst they were being developed. Using big chokes but still, breaks even the long stuff ok and the majority of club stuff you see now will be more than enough to do the business. Yes, got to agree, remember the play around we had on the pool shoot at Kibbo with those 21g shells a couple of years back..?? You broke that edge on R/L crossing midi really well, it must have been 55 - 60 yards away..?? Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. lecter Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 fair play but the best shots dont use em "why" . ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 fair play but the best shots dont use em "why" . ? Neither do they pay for cartridges...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. lecter Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 point taken , so they can choose what they like . i dont see em using 21gm shells . i understand the cost saving , but its false econemy to enter competions using less than the best . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 point taken , so they can choose what they like . i dont see em using 21gm shells . i understand the cost saving , but its false econemy to enter competions using less than the best . I agree or is it the sponsors want them shooting the most expensive shells? for the top 5% of shooters i can see the benfit of £250 a thousand shells as 1 chip makes the difference, for most C/B even A class shooters is shooting 20k cheaper shells a year more benefical than shooting 15k more expensive? I dont know, on longer shoots 100+ does the reduced tiredness of using lighter shells make a difference? I don't know, plenty of shooters are superstitious about kit perhaps it's all in the mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 21g are not as good as 28g, fact. They are however more than adequate for the majority of the birds you see thrown week in week out in registered shoots. The difference between an ounce of lea costin 150/1000 and and ounce at 220/1000 is un noticeable, except for the birds that are at extreme range, which we don't see now anyway! All of it is marketing and little else. Speed, powder wad etc makes such a tiny difference none of us are good enough to tell. And on a side note there are only a handful of guys who get free shells the rest pay like everyone else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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