Dorsey Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hello airgunners I have just ordered a second hand .22 Air Arms s410 classic... I think I have everything I need already, but, I just wondered if there were any perils or pitfalls I should look out for with this gun? I've been told 190 is a good amount to charge it up to but just wanted to check that sounds about right? And the other thing is, and I know this is pretty subjective and rifle dependent, but; pellet choice: I'm guessing it's gonna run best with the Air Arms field pellets, but what's with the two different types? I'm sorry for all the questions but I've mostly just used my Springer before and even then I never got into all the technicalities behind it! I suppose I just need to buy a chrono and check a few different pellets (when did they get SO expensive!) and do a few target tests and go from there. Anyway, I look forward to being an air rifle hunter again! Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for all the help i'm bound to need and hopefully receive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 190 bar is the maximum to charge it to, ut you need to find the rifles sweet spot to shoot it accuratly, however saying that it will not be un accurate even if pumped to 190. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 As said 190 bar may be the safe working pressure but I would probably fill it to 180 bar for more consistent power, but it's worth using a chrono to find the best pressure range to use. AA Diablo Field pellets are a good place to start, I use JSB exact which is pretty much the same pellet and they are very consistent and very accurate. As for the different types, do you mean the different sizes (5.50, 5.51, 5.52 etc)? If so PCPs seem to prefer tighter fitting pellets. Or do you mean the 2 different designs for the Diablo Field tins? (They are the same pellet, just with newer packaging). Lead is expensive at the moment so .177 is a cheaper caliber (£8.50 for 500). One thing to watch for is thin bluing or rust so make sure you keep it lightly coated in oil. I'm sure they are fine now but Air Arms rifles used to be a little more prone to surface rust that some others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) There are no pitfalls with the AA's. As said max 190. if you go to 200 you will find the first 10 or so pellets are not quite as accurate as the rest down to about 100. Try it for yourself, then you will know. A chrono is helpful to check your within the 12 ftlbs legal limit, but if your buying from a gunsmith, get him to check it for you then save your money. AA fields are my favourite in all my rifles especially the AA rifles. Just try 5.51 and 5.52 and see which groups better for you. I find the 5.52's suit mine best. IMHO there isn't any point complicating pellet choice any further, they are accurate and deadly on targets/quarry..thats all you need. Get a reasonable scope with milldots and some sports match mounts. Theres plenty of scopes that are good enough at £50. Pick a magnification setting and stick to it. My preference is 6x. Zero at 25 yds then work out your hold over/under for ranges either side at 5 yd increments. Then go have some fun, you'll love it Best of luck. Edited September 15, 2011 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsey Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hey again guys, Yeah, it was the .51/.52 thing that through me, as I said all my shooting till now was non PCP (I did install a gas ram in my superstar once but that went kinda wrong so steered clear of all but springs since then!) I believe it has a scope of some sort, not with one of these fancy new illuminated reticules or anything but i'm sure it'll be fine, for now! The chrono is kinda on the list for 'soon', i've just gotta wait for the bank balance to recover again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Biggest pitfall with the AA s410 is that when you miss and blame the gun everybody knows you're bull pooping.Deffo one of the best pcp's ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Biggest pitfall with the AA s410 is that when you miss and blame the gun everybody knows you're bull pooping.Deffo one of the best pcp's ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Your in for a treat as this rifle is nothing short of superb.Yes fill to 190bar and no more is my advice.As for pellet choice I would try out different ones to see which best suits your barrel. I have an S410 in .177 calibre and accuracy is frightening!! ATB and enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 My old S310 is a belter and couldn't do better...I could though! I stick with AA Field 5.52, fill it to 170 bar only, shoot about 50 pellets, then top it up again. It only drops to about 150 bar, but as these are all unregulated rifles, it keeps the accuracy absolutely spot on Sometimes I might only get a couple of hours lamping and 1 or 2 bunnies, then nothing for a week, but I can just pick the rifle up next time I need it, knowing the pressure will still be spot on: no leaks at all, ultra reliable. I've recently changed to an MTC Mamba scope, another excellent piece of kit, I won't be changing anything for a long while now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) Ignore the Air Arms pellets, last 3 tins of these we had were absolute carp. More ended up in our lead smelting pan (we make our own sea fishing lures) than got fired out of our guns. Msshed skirts, deformed heads, complete waste of money. A couple of decent pellets we have found are the Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums and the Prometheus Defiant. A word of warning though, the Defiants can seem expensive, but you do get 1,000 per box! The swearing filter is a bit sensitive on here, would not have thought the obvious anagram of carp was swearing! Edited September 17, 2011 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 I have heard a few reports of damaged AA pellets but I'm wondering what the cause is? I pick mine up from Bond guns in Bridgwater and have had no issues at all, maybe they are getting damaged during delivery? Regards Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Perhaps it is the dies wearing out, I don't know, however after 3 different tins you get distinctly cheesed off, so you go for something else, and the Ultra Magnums are something else, last tin I sued there were 3 slightly damaged skirts on pellets, that was it! None were unusable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Premier Ultras are made by Crossman, have you seen the ads saying that they are the most ACCUrate PELlets They are virtually the same, and indeed are superb pellets, and a very good price....great for my HW99S springer, but TERRIBLE in my S310 and my S300... AA Field are very soft lead, so do get damaged, so I keep mine in Biro cases to protect them, plus they don't rattle around when stalking bunnies! Defo the best for my 2 AirArms though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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