Frank Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Ok, i asked before in the past about which caliber for fox do you have. Now i have narrowed it down to just 2 calibers, the most popular ones. Please, if you can leave a comment as to why you would prefer any particular caliber after you have voted. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 At the distances that most people will take the shot (100 – 225yds) the .223 will do everything that the .22-250 will, only a lot cheaper. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 .223 for me. The main reason being land clearance. I am less likely to meet a problem with clearance with .223 as opposed the .22-250. It also a cheaper round to run and maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 0.223. Used to have a 22-250. Nothing in it in the accuracy stakes up to 200 yards, and how many foxes are shot at ranges greater than that? The 0.223 is a lot cheaper to reload, and in my experience the cases last longer. Use 50g bullet heads and the velocities are up to 3,400 fps. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Thanks all for putting your reasons down so far. Keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 .22/250 although i've just took another step up to .243. If i had a choice it would be the 250 everytime They aint more expensive to run either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewyjack.22 Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) I think we should have a celebrity death match like they do on mtv and sort this out once and for all FRANK vs FISTER great reading Edited May 10, 2006 by chewyjack.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 22-250 myself, you cant kill a fox too much, the .223 can do the job, however if you slip up the chances of still getting a clean kill are much greater with the 22-250 if you handload the price is not that bad, Not when you consider we use the .243 and 6.5 on foxes it is however too fast for most ranges unless you down-load it and bloody noisey unless you put a can on it (which most will) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think we should have a celebrity death match like they do on mtv and sort this out once and for all FRANK vs FISTER :o great reading Let me get a bowl of popcorn and a pepsi first..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Just out of interest, how many 22-250 rounds can burn down the barrel before it goes off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sniper Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 223........easy to handload, milder to shoot, less recoil. As has been said, does the job up to 200 yards.............and more if you know your rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think we should have a celebrity death match like they do on mtv and sort this out once and for all FRANK vs FISTER :o great reading I think we should have a celebrity death match like they do on mtv and sort this out once and for all FRANK vs FISTER great reading Let me get a bowl of popcorn and a pepsi first..... You fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 22-250 myself, you cant kill a fox too much, the .223 can do the job, however if you slip up the chances of still getting a clean kill are much greater with the 22-250 if you handload the price is not that bad, Not when you consider we use the .243 and 6.5 on foxes it is however too fast for most ranges unless you down-load it and bloody noisey unless you put a can on it (which most will) Back to the fray! You must have some armour plated foxes your way - my 0.223 can plough straight through seriously thick steel plate at 100 yards. I had my 22-250 for 5 years, and I can seriously say that changing to a 0.223 has not altered my kill rate whatsoever. So, cobblers to your comment that chances of getting a clean kill are greater with a 22-250. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) I have no problem whatsoever with .223 but im suprised Frank needs it, what with no Moles in Ireland to shoot with it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edited May 10, 2006 by Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) milder to shoot, less recoil. recoil in the 22-250?!?!? its bark is worse than its bite by a long way. the 22-250 shouldnt be any harder to reload than any other common cartridge. The only cartridge i have ever found to be difficult to reload is the .22 hornet, there are a whole number of problems, over lubing and denting its sholders and run out due to the lack of material around the neck of the cartridge being the main two i have experiance of (sorted by using a wax like lube which you spray and also a set of forster dies not rcbs) fister, the howa is in the proof house, the bunch making the stock have promissed to start making a new one (assuming the original is lost ) and ship it to me ASAP and i have a chap ready to screw cut it as soon as it is in my possesion. Back to the fray! You must have some armour plated foxes your way - my 0.223 can plough straight through seriously thick steel plate at 100 yards. I had my 22-250 for 5 years, and I can seriously say that changing to a 0.223 has not altered my kill rate whatsoever. So, cobblers to your comment that chances of getting a clean kill are greater with a 22-250. Don when you find an metal plated fox let me know the expansion is what is usefull not the penetration (as long as it does penetrate a bit) (shooting metal simply shows that the bullet penetrates and dosent deliver its energy on that particular target material) the 6.5 will knock a dinner plate sized hole out the other side of a fox, where as the .222 will kncok a 3 or 4" hole, if i were to pull a shot (does happen) and belly shoot it, i want to know that i have the best chance of my wound killing the fox. I know that if a fox is belly shot with the 6.5 it will 9/10 take it down straight away, however i know that the .222 will produce a runner 9/10 from this situation. bare in mind that i am not doubting the .222/223's ability to do the job, ive just bought one, i am just suggesting that the 22-250 gives you more room for error (not to suggest error is acceptable) Edited May 10, 2006 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 The vote says a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sniper Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 dunganick, Going deaf, me old love ? No need to repeat what I say !! If so, I will repeat slowly..............223....milder to shoot, less recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 dunganick, Going deaf, me old love ? No need to repeat what I say !! If so, I will repeat slowly..............223....milder to shoot, less recoil. yeh less recoil than a 22-250? , the 22-250 has no recoil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 .223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Every gun wears out a barrel eventually, Miffy had bad luck IMHO. My barrel wearing out was purely down to my own neglect.......i didnt clean it in 4 years or more (apart from using a pull through) and i don't think that the 10 months my rifle spent in prison did it any favours too , but after 2000+ shots i'm not complaining too much The new rifle will get cleaned but not everytime i shoot it but perhaps once a month Just out of interest how many shooters have used both calibres regularly and still choose .223 I have used both ALOT and still use a .223 from time to time. I'm happy to shoot a .223 but if i had to buy one rifle and one rifle only i would buy a .22/250 everytime. Cost should not be an issue as someone has already proved that .22/250 ammo is the same price if not cheaper than .223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 .223 I have shot my own .223 and Miffys 22/250 with the sound moderators off with no ear protection .......No difference whatsoever ............Both alot louder than a shotgun and I did'nt notice any difference in re-coil . What i have paid attention to is the fact that there have been 2 shot out 22/250s talked about on here .......I can't recolect the same about the .223 No matter what calibre 200yds is a bloody good shot .............More so the quality of glass coming into play I feel at theses sort of ranges There you go Frank ..........another poll .............What glass is worn on yer rifle I'm all polled out Miffy .........posted this at the same time as your post and i don't think that the 10 months my rifle spent in prison did it any favours too , If you had put a stocking over the barrel like I said then it would'nt have been picked out in the identity parade Some one should 've been brought to account for the the way your guns were damaged by the Police though mate Geeze ......I haven't got this editing cracked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) What i have paid attention to is the fact that there have been 2 shot out 22/250s talked about on here .......I can't recolect the same about the .223 I know of a .222 that has been shot out and they "all" will get shot out eventually. Wait till you shoot the .243 ive.................... you'll want one If you had put a stocking over the barrel like I said then it would'nt have been picked out in the identity parade Some one should 've been brought to account for the the way your guns were damaged by the Police though mate At the time i tried to get some compensation but it wasn't worth the hassle Edited May 10, 2006 by miffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 What i have paid attention to is the fact that there have been 2 shot out 22/250s talked about on here .......I can't recolect the same about the .223 I know of a .222 that has been shot out and they "all" will get shot out eventually. Wait till you shoot the .243 ive.................... you'll want one I struggling getting the pennies for the .17 hmr ..............depending on how popular I am at me 40th ,it could end up being a CZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I struggling getting the pennies for the .17 hmr ..............depending on how popular I am at me 40th ,it could end up being a CZ I'll lend ya some money so ya don't have to get the CZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I'm all polled out Miffy .........posted this at the same time as your post and i don't think that the 10 months my rifle spent in prison did it any favours too , If you had put a stocking over the barrel like I said then it would'nt have been picked out in the identity parade Some one should 've been brought to account for the the way your guns were damaged by the Police though mate Geeze ......I haven't got this editing cracked Yeah, should of worn the stoking I struggling getting the pennies for the .17 hmr ..............depending on how popular I am at me 40th ,it could end up being a CZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Go for it ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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